1 00:05:41,860 --> 00:03:02,630 you 2 00:05:41,870 --> 00:05:50,150 [Music] 3 00:05:56,070 --> 00:05:53,029 me 4 00:05:58,950 --> 00:05:56,080 the smoke radio for the masses headline 5 00:06:00,790 --> 00:05:58,960 edition july 8 1947 6 00:06:03,270 --> 00:06:00,800 the army air forces has announced that a 7 00:06:04,830 --> 00:06:03,280 flying disc has been found and is now in 8 00:06:06,870 --> 00:06:04,840 the possession of the 9 00:06:09,670 --> 00:06:06,880 army that the game is rigged change the 10 00:06:12,550 --> 00:06:09,680 game game changer 11 00:06:14,870 --> 00:06:12,560 i occasionally think how quickly 12 00:06:16,230 --> 00:06:14,880 our differences worldwide 13 00:06:18,950 --> 00:06:16,240 would vanish 14 00:06:20,480 --> 00:06:18,960 if we were facing an alien threat from 15 00:06:22,260 --> 00:06:20,490 outside this worker 16 00:06:25,110 --> 00:06:22,270 [Music] 17 00:06:27,909 --> 00:06:25,120 [Applause] 18 00:06:30,550 --> 00:06:27,919 this is fade to black with your host 19 00:06:33,749 --> 00:06:30,560 jimmy church on the game changer radio 20 00:06:37,430 --> 00:06:33,759 network and kgra the global radio 21 00:06:47,270 --> 00:06:39,350 i need your help to get to the year 22 00:06:49,589 --> 00:06:47,280 [Music] 23 00:06:54,790 --> 00:06:49,599 to fate 1985 flag with jimmy church on 24 00:06:58,909 --> 00:06:57,029 welcome 25 00:07:01,510 --> 00:06:58,919 fade to black 26 00:07:03,830 --> 00:07:01,520 bespoke radio 27 00:07:05,350 --> 00:07:03,840 for the 28 00:07:08,309 --> 00:07:05,360 masses 29 00:07:09,810 --> 00:07:08,319 uh yeah man today's wednesday 30 00:07:10,909 --> 00:07:09,820 december 29 31 00:07:13,230 --> 00:07:10,919 [Music] 32 00:07:16,390 --> 00:07:13,240 2021 33 00:07:19,990 --> 00:07:16,400 362 days into the new year 34 00:07:21,510 --> 00:07:20,000 only three days left 35 00:07:25,670 --> 00:07:21,520 let's do this 36 00:07:31,110 --> 00:07:28,790 [Applause] 37 00:07:33,189 --> 00:07:31,120 we are live 38 00:07:34,629 --> 00:07:33,199 from a bunker 39 00:07:39,029 --> 00:07:34,639 a bunker somewhere in the middle of 40 00:07:40,790 --> 00:07:39,039 nowhere a total undisclosed location 41 00:07:42,150 --> 00:07:40,800 but it is beautiful 42 00:07:43,830 --> 00:07:42,160 i would like to welcome everybody 43 00:07:46,230 --> 00:07:43,840 listening all around the world all 44 00:07:48,230 --> 00:07:46,240 across the united states 45 00:07:50,469 --> 00:07:48,240 hither and tether to and fro back and 46 00:07:53,830 --> 00:07:50,479 forth up and down east and west north 47 00:07:57,110 --> 00:07:53,840 and south far and near 48 00:07:59,510 --> 00:07:57,120 this is fade to black for kjcr the game 49 00:08:01,029 --> 00:07:59,520 changer and on x networks i am your host 50 00:08:05,749 --> 00:08:01,039 jimmy church 51 00:08:07,020 --> 00:08:05,759 what is cracking everybody how you doing 52 00:08:10,150 --> 00:08:07,030 all right 53 00:08:13,430 --> 00:08:10,160 [Music] 54 00:08:15,670 --> 00:08:13,440 we finally made it 55 00:08:18,869 --> 00:08:15,680 because tonight continuing our new 56 00:08:22,150 --> 00:08:18,879 year's week here on fade to black 57 00:08:24,390 --> 00:08:22,160 we have a very special guest and he's 58 00:08:27,029 --> 00:08:24,400 our last guest 59 00:08:29,990 --> 00:08:27,039 of 2021 60 00:08:32,709 --> 00:08:30,000 richard bleepin dolan 61 00:08:35,430 --> 00:08:32,719 and that's how it should be 62 00:08:38,630 --> 00:08:35,440 tomorrow night is our last show of the 63 00:08:41,589 --> 00:08:38,640 year and it's also a fader night which 64 00:08:43,670 --> 00:08:41,599 means open lines all night long 65 00:08:46,230 --> 00:08:43,680 tomorrow last show of the year the day 66 00:08:47,670 --> 00:08:46,240 before new year's eve it's gonna be a 67 00:08:50,389 --> 00:08:47,680 great way to celebrate i'll be doing 68 00:08:52,790 --> 00:08:50,399 that with uh all of you tomorrow night 69 00:08:54,550 --> 00:08:52,800 maybe i'll break out some vodka 70 00:08:56,310 --> 00:08:54,560 maybe i'll break out some 71 00:08:58,230 --> 00:08:56,320 some champagne 72 00:08:58,949 --> 00:08:58,240 drink live on the air i've never done 73 00:09:01,269 --> 00:08:58,959 that 74 00:09:04,310 --> 00:09:01,279 i've never drank in the air 75 00:09:05,990 --> 00:09:04,320 never smoked on the air 76 00:09:07,590 --> 00:09:06,000 never did any of that stuff on the air 77 00:09:11,030 --> 00:09:07,600 one of these days 78 00:09:13,750 --> 00:09:11,040 [Laughter] 79 00:09:14,530 --> 00:09:13,760 vape some dmt live 80 00:09:16,630 --> 00:09:14,540 all right 81 00:09:18,790 --> 00:09:16,640 [Laughter] 82 00:09:20,070 --> 00:09:18,800 tonight it's richard dolan 83 00:09:22,550 --> 00:09:20,080 and uh 84 00:09:25,670 --> 00:09:22,560 what an amazing year it has been 85 00:09:27,350 --> 00:09:25,680 uh this uh coffee is for you 86 00:09:29,350 --> 00:09:27,360 what an amazing year 87 00:09:31,829 --> 00:09:29,360 and i can't think of a better way to 88 00:09:33,750 --> 00:09:31,839 close things out with uh richard dolan 89 00:09:34,829 --> 00:09:33,760 uh for our last guest 90 00:09:36,550 --> 00:09:34,839 of 91 00:09:38,550 --> 00:09:36,560 2021 92 00:09:41,190 --> 00:09:38,560 and uh it's a busy night here on the 93 00:09:44,150 --> 00:09:41,200 show i was uh i was just over 94 00:09:45,990 --> 00:09:44,160 in youtube i said i pounded a a gallon 95 00:09:50,790 --> 00:09:46,000 of river moon coffee to get ready for 96 00:09:52,710 --> 00:09:50,800 the show tonight so there you go also 97 00:09:54,070 --> 00:09:52,720 i was talking to richard a few minutes 98 00:09:55,670 --> 00:09:54,080 ago 99 00:09:56,550 --> 00:09:55,680 and uh 100 00:10:00,389 --> 00:09:56,560 he's 101 00:10:02,310 --> 00:10:00,399 same night 102 00:10:04,870 --> 00:10:02,320 he's uh 103 00:10:07,509 --> 00:10:04,880 doing fade to black of course 104 00:10:10,470 --> 00:10:07,519 and then right after that he's rolling 105 00:10:11,750 --> 00:10:10,480 over to coast to coast a.m 106 00:10:14,470 --> 00:10:11,760 he's got 107 00:10:15,590 --> 00:10:14,480 he has got a long night in front of him 108 00:10:18,069 --> 00:10:15,600 plus he's 109 00:10:20,949 --> 00:10:18,079 i'm glad we you know uh we've got him 110 00:10:22,949 --> 00:10:20,959 first but uh he's on the east coast man 111 00:10:24,870 --> 00:10:22,959 that uh that coast to coast ain't 112 00:10:27,590 --> 00:10:24,880 nothing nice when you're on the east 113 00:10:30,470 --> 00:10:27,600 coast that's 1am 114 00:10:31,829 --> 00:10:30,480 it's 1am in new york one went till three 115 00:10:33,590 --> 00:10:31,839 oh man 116 00:10:34,550 --> 00:10:33,600 richard's gonna be tore up tomorrow i'm 117 00:10:36,470 --> 00:10:34,560 gonna call him first thing in the 118 00:10:39,509 --> 00:10:36,480 morning how you doing man what's going 119 00:10:43,750 --> 00:10:42,230 i'm up i'm fresh how you doing 120 00:10:46,389 --> 00:10:43,760 all right yeah 121 00:10:49,030 --> 00:10:46,399 richard man uh unbelievable what a great 122 00:10:50,230 --> 00:10:49,040 night for him 123 00:10:52,870 --> 00:10:50,240 all right 124 00:10:56,150 --> 00:10:52,880 follow me on twitter 125 00:10:58,389 --> 00:10:56,160 at j church radio on the east coast we 126 00:11:01,030 --> 00:10:58,399 will be ringing in the new year with you 127 00:11:03,269 --> 00:11:01,040 and the faders is that right is that how 128 00:11:05,910 --> 00:11:03,279 is that how that works how east coast 129 00:11:08,590 --> 00:11:05,920 are you you have to be way east 130 00:11:10,310 --> 00:11:08,600 i would think follow me on twitter at 131 00:11:12,310 --> 00:11:10,320 jchurchradio 132 00:11:13,750 --> 00:11:12,320 at j church radio follow me right there 133 00:11:16,790 --> 00:11:13,760 the sandboxes 134 00:11:18,790 --> 00:11:16,800 f2b on twitter we don't bite uh hello to 135 00:11:19,910 --> 00:11:18,800 everybody that's watching and and 136 00:11:22,630 --> 00:11:19,920 listening 137 00:11:24,870 --> 00:11:22,640 uh all around the world wherever you are 138 00:11:27,030 --> 00:11:24,880 right now any questions 139 00:11:28,870 --> 00:11:27,040 uh for the show tonight and i'll try to 140 00:11:31,110 --> 00:11:28,880 squeeze those in for richard plug those 141 00:11:32,630 --> 00:11:31,120 in at hashtag f2bq 142 00:11:35,190 --> 00:11:32,640 all right all right let's get to the 143 00:11:37,350 --> 00:11:35,200 breaking news this broke right before 144 00:11:38,790 --> 00:11:37,360 the show tonight 145 00:11:42,470 --> 00:11:38,800 a jury 146 00:11:45,110 --> 00:11:42,480 in a new york federal court has found 147 00:11:48,310 --> 00:11:45,120 guisane maxwell 148 00:11:50,629 --> 00:11:48,320 guilty on five of six counts related to 149 00:11:53,990 --> 00:11:50,639 her role in jeffrey epstein's sexual 150 00:11:55,670 --> 00:11:54,000 abuse of minor girls between 1994 and 151 00:11:58,710 --> 00:11:55,680 2004. 152 00:11:59,910 --> 00:11:58,720 she was found guilty of five federal 153 00:12:02,629 --> 00:11:59,920 charges 154 00:12:04,629 --> 00:12:02,639 sex trafficking of a minor transporting 155 00:12:06,710 --> 00:12:04,639 a minor with the intent to engage in 156 00:12:09,750 --> 00:12:06,720 criminal sexual activity 157 00:12:10,949 --> 00:12:09,760 and three unrelated or three related 158 00:12:13,269 --> 00:12:10,959 accounts 159 00:12:17,430 --> 00:12:13,279 of conspiracy 160 00:12:20,710 --> 00:12:17,440 maxwell who now faces up to 65 years in 161 00:12:22,710 --> 00:12:20,720 prison showed absolutely no reaction 162 00:12:26,310 --> 00:12:22,720 when the verdicts were read 163 00:12:28,629 --> 00:12:26,320 judge allison nathan did not set 164 00:12:29,670 --> 00:12:28,639 a sentencing date 165 00:12:32,389 --> 00:12:29,680 wow 166 00:12:35,190 --> 00:12:32,399 elon musk back in the news 167 00:12:38,069 --> 00:12:35,200 because elon has offloaded the final 168 00:12:40,470 --> 00:12:38,079 batch of tesla stock options that will 169 00:12:44,310 --> 00:12:40,480 expire next year 170 00:12:45,910 --> 00:12:44,320 elon sold 934 171 00:12:48,550 --> 00:12:45,920 000 shares 172 00:12:51,030 --> 00:12:48,560 for 1.02 173 00:12:54,590 --> 00:12:51,040 billion dollars 174 00:12:58,150 --> 00:12:54,600 he also exercised an option to to buy 175 00:12:59,110 --> 00:12:58,160 1.6 million tesla shares at a strike 176 00:13:00,110 --> 00:12:59,120 price 177 00:13:03,190 --> 00:13:00,120 of 178 00:13:04,629 --> 00:13:03,200 6.24 cents per share remember tesla 179 00:13:07,030 --> 00:13:04,639 stock today 180 00:13:08,230 --> 00:13:07,040 is way north of a thousand dollars a 181 00:13:09,269 --> 00:13:08,240 share 182 00:13:11,350 --> 00:13:09,279 okay 183 00:13:13,990 --> 00:13:11,360 he just bought these for six dollars per 184 00:13:16,150 --> 00:13:14,000 share because they were granted to him 185 00:13:18,829 --> 00:13:16,160 in 2012. 186 00:13:20,389 --> 00:13:18,839 so far musk has acquired 187 00:13:21,910 --> 00:13:20,399 22.8 188 00:13:24,069 --> 00:13:21,920 million shares 189 00:13:25,430 --> 00:13:24,079 through exercising options that are set 190 00:13:29,030 --> 00:13:25,440 to expire 191 00:13:31,990 --> 00:13:29,040 in 2022. money from the stock sale is 192 00:13:36,949 --> 00:13:32,000 expected to be used to pay his taxes of 193 00:13:41,110 --> 00:13:36,959 about 11 billion dollars for this year 194 00:13:43,430 --> 00:13:41,120 tumbler's latest update to its ios app 195 00:13:46,550 --> 00:13:43,440 released yesterday 196 00:13:49,189 --> 00:13:46,560 has censored a long list of seemingly 197 00:13:52,150 --> 00:13:49,199 harmless words to comply with apple's 198 00:13:54,470 --> 00:13:52,160 new strict safety guidelines for 199 00:13:56,230 --> 00:13:54,480 programs featured on the tech giant's 200 00:13:58,949 --> 00:13:56,240 online store 201 00:14:01,110 --> 00:13:58,959 the expanded list of sensor tags is 202 00:14:03,590 --> 00:14:01,120 apparently intended to protect users 203 00:14:05,829 --> 00:14:03,600 from sensitive content when searching 204 00:14:06,550 --> 00:14:05,839 through the platform or when looking at 205 00:14:11,350 --> 00:14:06,560 its 206 00:14:12,870 --> 00:14:11,360 stuff for you and following sections 207 00:14:15,350 --> 00:14:12,880 among the words 208 00:14:17,110 --> 00:14:15,360 and phrases that have been recently 209 00:14:18,870 --> 00:14:17,120 censored are 210 00:14:20,710 --> 00:14:18,880 girl 211 00:14:23,030 --> 00:14:20,720 sad 212 00:14:25,150 --> 00:14:23,040 single dad 213 00:14:28,829 --> 00:14:25,160 single mom 214 00:14:31,269 --> 00:14:28,839 testicular cancer 215 00:14:32,790 --> 00:14:31,279 knee my face 216 00:14:34,949 --> 00:14:32,800 among others 217 00:14:38,230 --> 00:14:34,959 and all of this is according to lists 218 00:14:40,710 --> 00:14:38,240 that have been presented and compiled 219 00:14:45,110 --> 00:14:40,720 by tumblr users 220 00:14:47,430 --> 00:14:45,120 absolutely incredible and finally 221 00:14:50,069 --> 00:14:47,440 here are the top 10 222 00:14:52,949 --> 00:14:50,079 betty white secrets 223 00:14:54,470 --> 00:14:52,959 to a long life 224 00:14:56,949 --> 00:14:54,480 are you ready 225 00:14:59,590 --> 00:14:56,959 write this down 226 00:15:02,389 --> 00:14:59,600 number ten 227 00:15:04,470 --> 00:15:02,399 playing golf 228 00:15:05,670 --> 00:15:04,480 number nine 229 00:15:07,590 --> 00:15:05,680 watching 230 00:15:09,509 --> 00:15:07,600 jeopardy 231 00:15:12,870 --> 00:15:09,519 number eight 232 00:15:14,710 --> 00:15:12,880 animal documentaries 233 00:15:17,509 --> 00:15:14,720 number seven 234 00:15:19,509 --> 00:15:17,519 playing card games 235 00:15:22,389 --> 00:15:19,519 number six 236 00:15:24,310 --> 00:15:22,399 crossword puzzles 237 00:15:25,910 --> 00:15:24,320 number five 238 00:15:30,470 --> 00:15:25,920 working 239 00:15:32,710 --> 00:15:30,480 number four 240 00:15:35,590 --> 00:15:32,720 always be positive 241 00:15:37,350 --> 00:15:35,600 never the negative 242 00:15:41,990 --> 00:15:37,360 number three 243 00:15:43,749 --> 00:15:42,000 avoid anything green in your diet 244 00:15:46,310 --> 00:15:43,759 number two 245 00:15:48,710 --> 00:15:46,320 hot dogs 246 00:15:51,350 --> 00:15:48,720 and the number one 247 00:15:53,590 --> 00:15:51,360 top 10 betty white secrets to a long 248 00:15:56,389 --> 00:15:53,600 life 249 00:15:59,269 --> 00:15:57,829 that's right 250 00:16:00,470 --> 00:15:59,279 betty says 251 00:16:03,430 --> 00:16:00,480 yeah 252 00:16:06,150 --> 00:16:03,440 it's vodka and hot dogs 253 00:16:07,990 --> 00:16:06,160 probably in that order 254 00:16:11,670 --> 00:16:08,000 end quote 255 00:16:15,350 --> 00:16:13,670 she's the absolute best let's get this 256 00:16:18,389 --> 00:16:15,360 show cracking 257 00:16:19,749 --> 00:16:18,399 happy birthday to today 258 00:16:24,470 --> 00:16:19,759 ted danson 259 00:16:25,910 --> 00:16:24,480 yeah he's been in so many great things 260 00:16:27,990 --> 00:16:25,920 but you know what i'm just going to go 261 00:16:32,310 --> 00:16:28,000 with the good place 262 00:16:33,430 --> 00:16:32,320 john voigt today is 83 ray donovan 263 00:16:38,150 --> 00:16:33,440 amazing 264 00:16:40,870 --> 00:16:38,160 right 265 00:16:43,269 --> 00:16:40,880 deliverance when an academy award of 266 00:16:47,030 --> 00:16:43,279 course for coming home 267 00:16:48,470 --> 00:16:47,040 ivan elliman today is 70 years old you 268 00:16:51,189 --> 00:16:48,480 remember her 269 00:16:53,670 --> 00:16:51,199 jesus christ superstar in that hit 270 00:16:58,230 --> 00:16:53,680 i don't know how to love him 271 00:16:59,110 --> 00:16:58,240 drummer j.r robinson today is 67 years 272 00:17:01,949 --> 00:16:59,120 old 273 00:17:04,390 --> 00:17:01,959 session drummer on over 50 274 00:17:07,429 --> 00:17:04,400 grammy-winning recordings 275 00:17:09,750 --> 00:17:07,439 pat benatar's guitarist husband 276 00:17:13,429 --> 00:17:09,760 neil geraldo today 277 00:17:16,150 --> 00:17:13,439 66 years old and offspring front man 278 00:17:17,829 --> 00:17:16,160 dexter holland today 279 00:17:21,189 --> 00:17:17,839 is 56. 280 00:17:26,470 --> 00:17:24,789 our dead guy's birthday today is 281 00:17:31,270 --> 00:17:26,480 cozy powell 282 00:17:33,830 --> 00:17:31,280 age of 50. 283 00:17:37,190 --> 00:17:33,840 cosi was one of the greatest and most 284 00:17:40,070 --> 00:17:37,200 influential drummers in music history 285 00:17:41,190 --> 00:17:40,080 playing live and recording with the jeff 286 00:17:44,070 --> 00:17:41,200 beck group 287 00:17:47,190 --> 00:17:44,080 rainbow the michael shanker group graham 288 00:17:49,590 --> 00:17:47,200 bonnet gary moore robert plant brian may 289 00:17:51,750 --> 00:17:49,600 white snake emerson lake and powell 290 00:17:53,590 --> 00:17:51,760 engle malmsteen 291 00:17:56,470 --> 00:17:53,600 and black sabbath 292 00:17:58,310 --> 00:17:56,480 cozy appeared on at least 293 00:18:02,070 --> 00:17:58,320 66 albums 294 00:18:04,549 --> 00:18:02,080 that we know of cozy died on april 5th 295 00:18:08,070 --> 00:18:04,559 1998 in a car crash 296 00:18:11,190 --> 00:18:08,080 while driving his saab 9000 at 104 miles 297 00:18:13,350 --> 00:18:11,200 per hour in bad weather on the m4 298 00:18:14,470 --> 00:18:13,360 motorway near bristol in the united 299 00:18:17,669 --> 00:18:14,480 kingdom 300 00:18:21,990 --> 00:18:17,679 he was just 50 years old 301 00:18:23,590 --> 00:18:22,000 happy birthday cozy pal seems like 302 00:18:25,350 --> 00:18:23,600 all of my favorite bands and all of 303 00:18:28,230 --> 00:18:25,360 their greatest albums 304 00:18:31,830 --> 00:18:28,240 cozy play drums i'm just saying it's not 305 00:18:33,750 --> 00:18:31,840 a coincidence on this day in history 306 00:18:36,070 --> 00:18:33,760 1940 307 00:18:38,950 --> 00:18:36,080 london suffers its most devastating air 308 00:18:40,549 --> 00:18:38,960 raid when germans firebombed the city 309 00:18:42,549 --> 00:18:40,559 the next day 310 00:18:45,669 --> 00:18:42,559 a newspaper photo of saint paul's 311 00:18:47,110 --> 00:18:45,679 cathedral standing undamaged amid smoke 312 00:18:49,990 --> 00:18:47,120 and flames 313 00:18:51,669 --> 00:18:50,000 symbolized the capital's unconquerable 314 00:18:53,909 --> 00:18:51,679 spirit 315 00:18:56,070 --> 00:18:53,919 fader fact 316 00:18:57,830 --> 00:18:56,080 write this down i got a few things you 317 00:19:00,150 --> 00:18:57,840 need to write down tonight 318 00:19:02,950 --> 00:19:00,160 write this down 319 00:19:05,669 --> 00:19:02,960 a cat's purr 320 00:19:10,390 --> 00:19:08,549 a cat's per frequency 321 00:19:13,190 --> 00:19:10,400 is between 25 322 00:19:16,870 --> 00:19:13,200 and 150 hertz 323 00:19:18,549 --> 00:19:16,880 and that per promotes bone density and 324 00:19:22,870 --> 00:19:18,559 healing 325 00:19:26,070 --> 00:19:22,880 this frequency is used in astronauts 326 00:19:28,950 --> 00:19:26,080 to help mitigate bone density issues 327 00:19:30,789 --> 00:19:28,960 from low gravity 328 00:19:32,950 --> 00:19:30,799 and that 329 00:19:35,029 --> 00:19:32,960 is your fader fact 330 00:19:38,230 --> 00:19:35,039 tonight continuing 331 00:19:39,110 --> 00:19:38,240 our new year's eve week here on fade to 332 00:19:41,590 --> 00:19:39,120 black 333 00:19:45,270 --> 00:19:41,600 we have very special guests and our last 334 00:19:47,190 --> 00:19:45,280 guest of 2021 it's richard dolan he will 335 00:19:49,110 --> 00:19:47,200 be with us at the bottom of the hour 336 00:19:50,549 --> 00:19:49,120 tomorrow is our last show of the year 337 00:19:52,950 --> 00:19:50,559 everybody 338 00:19:54,310 --> 00:19:52,960 that's right friday is new year's eve 339 00:19:56,470 --> 00:19:54,320 tomorrow's our last show of the year 340 00:19:58,710 --> 00:19:56,480 it's a thursday and it's also a fader 341 00:20:00,710 --> 00:19:58,720 night so it's open lines all night long 342 00:20:02,310 --> 00:20:00,720 tomorrow night and i look forward to 343 00:20:05,110 --> 00:20:02,320 hanging out and celebrating with all of 344 00:20:13,270 --> 00:20:05,120 you all right now let me hit this 345 00:20:18,630 --> 00:20:15,669 best coffee in the world i like my 346 00:20:20,549 --> 00:20:18,640 coffee dak i do 347 00:20:22,149 --> 00:20:20,559 i get dark 348 00:20:32,950 --> 00:20:22,159 i do 349 00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:37,669 oh man 350 00:20:37,679 --> 00:20:41,590 rivermoonwellness.com 351 00:20:46,630 --> 00:20:44,549 anybody in my life 352 00:20:48,630 --> 00:20:46,640 and i do mean anybody anybody that you 353 00:20:50,149 --> 00:20:48,640 know that pierces the veil that gets 354 00:20:51,430 --> 00:20:50,159 into the circle 355 00:20:54,230 --> 00:20:51,440 they know 356 00:20:57,029 --> 00:20:54,240 how serious i take my coffee and it's 357 00:20:59,590 --> 00:20:57,039 been that way since i was 358 00:21:03,270 --> 00:20:59,600 since my dad got me addicted yeah 359 00:21:06,070 --> 00:21:03,280 that's it's the truth and uh 360 00:21:08,070 --> 00:21:06,080 uh i just coffee is special to me and 361 00:21:09,909 --> 00:21:08,080 fade to black blend 362 00:21:11,750 --> 00:21:09,919 is when i say it's the best coffee in 363 00:21:14,310 --> 00:21:11,760 the world it's all that i drink that is 364 00:21:19,029 --> 00:21:14,320 the truth it is the best coffee in the 365 00:21:23,350 --> 00:21:21,270 if you enjoy coffee you appreciate the 366 00:21:24,630 --> 00:21:23,360 real stuff the good stuff you've got to 367 00:21:26,470 --> 00:21:24,640 try it 368 00:21:28,549 --> 00:21:26,480 fade to black blend 369 00:21:34,710 --> 00:21:28,559 incredible just incredible coffee all 370 00:21:45,190 --> 00:21:38,470 one of the things 371 00:21:47,909 --> 00:21:45,200 continued to give us 372 00:21:50,870 --> 00:21:47,919 was great tv 373 00:21:54,470 --> 00:21:53,190 the movies this year have been great for 374 00:21:55,830 --> 00:21:54,480 sure 375 00:22:00,789 --> 00:21:55,840 and 376 00:22:02,630 --> 00:22:00,799 know off the top of my head you got dune 377 00:22:06,549 --> 00:22:02,640 that was great right 378 00:22:08,390 --> 00:22:06,559 the matrix four last week and also last 379 00:22:10,870 --> 00:22:08,400 week don't look up 380 00:22:13,190 --> 00:22:10,880 it's like uh the three best films of the 381 00:22:16,310 --> 00:22:13,200 year all came at the end of the year i 382 00:22:17,029 --> 00:22:16,320 haven't seen spider-man yet 383 00:22:18,950 --> 00:22:17,039 so 384 00:22:21,350 --> 00:22:18,960 there you go it's i don't think it's 385 00:22:22,950 --> 00:22:21,360 streaming it's only in theaters 386 00:22:25,029 --> 00:22:22,960 and uh 387 00:22:27,590 --> 00:22:25,039 i'm not going into public spaces like 388 00:22:28,390 --> 00:22:27,600 that and that's not going to happen but 389 00:22:29,750 --> 00:22:28,400 uh 390 00:22:31,909 --> 00:22:29,760 but everything seemed to come at the end 391 00:22:33,430 --> 00:22:31,919 of the year there were things 392 00:22:35,590 --> 00:22:33,440 you know at the beginning of the year 393 00:22:37,909 --> 00:22:35,600 but this is just off the top of my head 394 00:22:39,669 --> 00:22:37,919 and certainly for me the three big films 395 00:22:40,950 --> 00:22:39,679 all came at the same time tune in the 396 00:22:42,789 --> 00:22:40,960 matrix and 397 00:22:46,630 --> 00:22:42,799 and don't look up 398 00:22:51,110 --> 00:22:48,710 uh 399 00:22:55,750 --> 00:22:51,120 the tv content 400 00:22:58,470 --> 00:22:56,630 now 401 00:23:00,630 --> 00:22:58,480 i spend 402 00:23:04,470 --> 00:23:00,640 uh 403 00:23:07,110 --> 00:23:04,480 i i spend my time 404 00:23:08,789 --> 00:23:07,120 doing quality stuff like watching uh 405 00:23:11,110 --> 00:23:08,799 great television 406 00:23:13,830 --> 00:23:11,120 movies documentaries 407 00:23:15,909 --> 00:23:13,840 um i'm constantly researching and and 408 00:23:18,390 --> 00:23:15,919 i'm always trying to expand my 409 00:23:19,990 --> 00:23:18,400 imagination and my mind and 410 00:23:21,990 --> 00:23:20,000 and learn things 411 00:23:25,270 --> 00:23:22,000 and i observe 412 00:23:26,470 --> 00:23:25,280 our community through film 413 00:23:30,630 --> 00:23:26,480 and 414 00:23:31,750 --> 00:23:30,640 i used to have the mindset 415 00:23:33,990 --> 00:23:31,760 that 416 00:23:37,029 --> 00:23:34,000 science fiction and to a large degree 417 00:23:37,909 --> 00:23:37,039 this is true a science fiction uh used 418 00:23:39,909 --> 00:23:37,919 to be 419 00:23:41,190 --> 00:23:39,919 and it was it was fun and you know you 420 00:23:43,830 --> 00:23:41,200 know whatever 421 00:23:46,789 --> 00:23:43,840 uh amazon women on the moon and and you 422 00:23:47,990 --> 00:23:46,799 know b movies and and things 423 00:23:50,390 --> 00:23:48,000 um 424 00:23:53,110 --> 00:23:50,400 but uh uh you know leaving things out 425 00:23:54,710 --> 00:23:53,120 like uh uh 2001 426 00:23:56,230 --> 00:23:54,720 but 427 00:23:58,630 --> 00:23:56,240 and they were always great there's no 428 00:24:00,950 --> 00:23:58,640 doubt about it right okay 429 00:24:02,710 --> 00:24:00,960 but movies today 430 00:24:05,430 --> 00:24:02,720 these writers 431 00:24:07,830 --> 00:24:05,440 and television today 432 00:24:09,590 --> 00:24:07,840 these creators 433 00:24:13,029 --> 00:24:09,600 television today and movies today the 434 00:24:18,310 --> 00:24:15,830 they listen to fade to black 435 00:24:22,149 --> 00:24:18,320 and and i'm not saying specifically fade 436 00:24:23,669 --> 00:24:22,159 to black but they are into 437 00:24:25,830 --> 00:24:23,679 our community 438 00:24:28,870 --> 00:24:25,840 very deeply 439 00:24:31,029 --> 00:24:28,880 and it's easy to access this information 440 00:24:35,669 --> 00:24:31,039 and and i get it 441 00:24:38,310 --> 00:24:35,679 but the tv this year and the continuing 442 00:24:40,710 --> 00:24:38,320 seasons from years past 443 00:24:42,470 --> 00:24:40,720 with like the endless 444 00:24:45,590 --> 00:24:42,480 i mean 445 00:24:47,750 --> 00:24:45,600 i can't say enough about the greatness 446 00:24:50,070 --> 00:24:47,760 of that tv series 447 00:24:52,310 --> 00:24:50,080 um invasion 448 00:24:53,909 --> 00:24:52,320 have you seen invasion if you haven't 449 00:24:56,549 --> 00:24:53,919 this is where you need to take out a pen 450 00:24:58,190 --> 00:24:56,559 and start writing some things down 451 00:25:00,710 --> 00:24:58,200 because the endless is 452 00:25:02,549 --> 00:25:00,720 fantastically great and if you haven't 453 00:25:05,029 --> 00:25:02,559 watched it go back to season one and 454 00:25:07,590 --> 00:25:05,039 you've got to understand everything that 455 00:25:08,470 --> 00:25:07,600 is involved in in this series 456 00:25:10,630 --> 00:25:08,480 um 457 00:25:12,470 --> 00:25:10,640 from what i understand this is the the 458 00:25:16,230 --> 00:25:12,480 series finale 459 00:25:19,110 --> 00:25:16,240 uh this year and uh but it's incredible 460 00:25:22,070 --> 00:25:19,120 invasion this is a new series 461 00:25:24,669 --> 00:25:22,080 and i just finished episode 10 462 00:25:27,269 --> 00:25:24,679 um foundation 463 00:25:29,909 --> 00:25:27,279 incredible adaptation and i thought it 464 00:25:33,350 --> 00:25:29,919 was so well done i mean wait the 465 00:25:35,909 --> 00:25:33,360 standards are just so high another life 466 00:25:36,870 --> 00:25:35,919 another one that just kind of snuck in 467 00:25:40,070 --> 00:25:36,880 there 468 00:25:41,430 --> 00:25:40,080 and it's just it's it's incredibly great 469 00:25:44,950 --> 00:25:41,440 tv 470 00:25:46,070 --> 00:25:44,960 and if you haven't seen for all mankind 471 00:25:49,430 --> 00:25:46,080 um 472 00:25:50,310 --> 00:25:49,440 an alternate reality version 473 00:25:52,870 --> 00:25:50,320 of 474 00:25:55,269 --> 00:25:52,880 uh the space race 475 00:25:57,830 --> 00:25:55,279 the apollo program the astronaut 476 00:26:01,510 --> 00:25:57,840 training program and the soviets 477 00:26:03,669 --> 00:26:01,520 and what was really going on and and uh 478 00:26:05,110 --> 00:26:03,679 in an alternate universe 479 00:26:06,630 --> 00:26:05,120 scenario 480 00:26:08,950 --> 00:26:06,640 with the moon 481 00:26:11,269 --> 00:26:08,960 it is incredible 482 00:26:13,590 --> 00:26:11,279 it's an incredible series the the 483 00:26:15,350 --> 00:26:13,600 standards the production value 484 00:26:17,750 --> 00:26:15,360 lost in space 485 00:26:21,430 --> 00:26:17,760 i mean 486 00:26:22,950 --> 00:26:21,440 uh yeah a reboot and so well done the 487 00:26:24,789 --> 00:26:22,960 the quality 488 00:26:27,430 --> 00:26:24,799 wanda vision 489 00:26:28,950 --> 00:26:27,440 i mean out of all of the tv this year 490 00:26:30,630 --> 00:26:28,960 and everything that i've just named and 491 00:26:31,669 --> 00:26:30,640 the invasion and foundation and the 492 00:26:33,269 --> 00:26:31,679 endless 493 00:26:36,549 --> 00:26:33,279 and then you've got things like wanda 494 00:26:39,510 --> 00:26:36,559 vision which was incredible incredibly 495 00:26:41,029 --> 00:26:39,520 great and a different take on things 496 00:26:45,590 --> 00:26:41,039 the witcher 497 00:26:48,070 --> 00:26:45,600 the new season is out now it is 498 00:26:53,029 --> 00:26:48,080 incredible wheel of time 499 00:26:54,630 --> 00:26:53,039 is out right now again all of these 500 00:26:57,029 --> 00:26:54,640 dip into 501 00:26:59,430 --> 00:26:57,039 what we do on this show 502 00:27:02,710 --> 00:26:59,440 the man in the high castle 503 00:27:04,390 --> 00:27:02,720 i can't uh express 504 00:27:07,029 --> 00:27:04,400 enough 505 00:27:08,710 --> 00:27:07,039 the reasons to go and watch the man in 506 00:27:11,510 --> 00:27:08,720 the high castle i think it's five 507 00:27:13,750 --> 00:27:11,520 seasons four seasons just wrapped it up 508 00:27:17,350 --> 00:27:13,760 and i gotta tell you 509 00:27:18,549 --> 00:27:17,360 uh again um alternate history alternate 510 00:27:20,470 --> 00:27:18,559 universe 511 00:27:24,389 --> 00:27:20,480 and uh 512 00:27:25,510 --> 00:27:24,399 and an adaptation on on a book that i i 513 00:27:27,750 --> 00:27:25,520 think is 514 00:27:30,549 --> 00:27:27,760 is is nearly perfect 515 00:27:31,590 --> 00:27:30,559 and the production value you watch any 516 00:27:35,990 --> 00:27:31,600 of these 517 00:27:38,630 --> 00:27:36,000 and the level of detail and storyline 518 00:27:41,029 --> 00:27:38,640 and knowledge that is involved here it's 519 00:27:43,110 --> 00:27:41,039 been an incredible year 520 00:27:45,190 --> 00:27:43,120 and then you have uh even more 521 00:27:47,430 --> 00:27:45,200 traditional stuff 522 00:27:48,630 --> 00:27:47,440 like succession 523 00:27:52,549 --> 00:27:48,640 wow 524 00:27:54,470 --> 00:27:52,559 right okay succession the morning show 525 00:27:57,110 --> 00:27:54,480 ted lasso 526 00:27:59,430 --> 00:27:57,120 murders in the building 527 00:28:02,310 --> 00:27:59,440 it's just amazing 528 00:28:05,029 --> 00:28:02,320 and that's not even science fiction 529 00:28:06,870 --> 00:28:05,039 it's just incredibly done and then of 530 00:28:09,269 --> 00:28:06,880 course 531 00:28:11,990 --> 00:28:09,279 rick and morty 532 00:28:14,549 --> 00:28:12,000 and it's uh look-alikes by the way uh 533 00:28:16,230 --> 00:28:14,559 solar opposites if you haven't checked 534 00:28:20,230 --> 00:28:16,240 that out you need to watch solar 535 00:28:22,310 --> 00:28:20,240 opposites and and another very similar 536 00:28:24,230 --> 00:28:22,320 car to for adults 537 00:28:25,750 --> 00:28:24,240 inside job 538 00:28:27,990 --> 00:28:25,760 now 539 00:28:31,269 --> 00:28:28,000 write any of these down 540 00:28:34,950 --> 00:28:31,279 anyone and go and watch them 541 00:28:37,190 --> 00:28:34,960 i have invested my time i do not if i 542 00:28:38,950 --> 00:28:37,200 watch a series 543 00:28:41,909 --> 00:28:38,960 from beginning to end there's plenty of 544 00:28:44,070 --> 00:28:41,919 series out there that i stopped watching 545 00:28:45,029 --> 00:28:44,080 but if i watch something beginning to 546 00:28:47,269 --> 00:28:45,039 end 547 00:28:50,549 --> 00:28:47,279 and i'm bringing it up on this show it's 548 00:28:53,269 --> 00:28:50,559 a must watch it's a must-watch 549 00:28:54,230 --> 00:28:53,279 uh my my time is valuable 550 00:29:00,149 --> 00:28:54,240 and 551 00:29:03,350 --> 00:29:00,159 of the hours the weeks 552 00:29:04,470 --> 00:29:03,360 uh in 2021 that i have invested into 553 00:29:06,310 --> 00:29:04,480 watching 554 00:29:07,269 --> 00:29:06,320 uh this programming 555 00:29:08,389 --> 00:29:07,279 uh 556 00:29:14,149 --> 00:29:08,399 it's 557 00:29:16,789 --> 00:29:14,159 everything 558 00:29:18,149 --> 00:29:16,799 stranger things isn't even out yet 559 00:29:20,389 --> 00:29:18,159 and uh 560 00:29:22,149 --> 00:29:20,399 been waiting for that and from what i 561 00:29:24,789 --> 00:29:22,159 understand that's gonna it's gonna 562 00:29:28,149 --> 00:29:24,799 happen in 2022. 563 00:29:31,350 --> 00:29:28,159 but out of everything here 564 00:29:34,070 --> 00:29:31,360 and i could stop and and and and go in 565 00:29:35,350 --> 00:29:34,080 any direction because invasion 566 00:29:38,870 --> 00:29:35,360 is 567 00:29:40,549 --> 00:29:38,880 it's 568 00:29:41,669 --> 00:29:40,559 you need you need to peep that out but 569 00:29:43,830 --> 00:29:41,679 then 570 00:29:46,310 --> 00:29:43,840 the endless and foundation and another 571 00:29:48,630 --> 00:29:46,320 life incredible for all mankind 572 00:29:50,950 --> 00:29:48,640 and out of all of this here even 573 00:29:53,510 --> 00:29:50,960 succession 574 00:29:57,190 --> 00:29:53,520 rick and morty 575 00:29:58,789 --> 00:29:57,200 and uh 576 00:30:03,190 --> 00:29:58,799 uh 577 00:30:04,710 --> 00:30:03,200 i won't say his name on the air um a 578 00:30:07,190 --> 00:30:04,720 friend of mine gave me a rick and morty 579 00:30:08,789 --> 00:30:07,200 shirt uh t-shirt for my birthday 580 00:30:11,510 --> 00:30:08,799 and you know somebody that listens to 581 00:30:13,590 --> 00:30:11,520 the show pays attention and understands 582 00:30:14,710 --> 00:30:13,600 uh where i've been going with rick and 583 00:30:18,950 --> 00:30:14,720 morty 584 00:30:21,110 --> 00:30:18,960 and to have a cartoon an animated series 585 00:30:23,590 --> 00:30:21,120 now this is adult 586 00:30:26,470 --> 00:30:23,600 this isn't for kids there are things and 587 00:30:28,950 --> 00:30:26,480 subject matter and words that are using 588 00:30:31,510 --> 00:30:28,960 this this isn't for kids i don't know 589 00:30:35,510 --> 00:30:31,520 where the line is in the sand but i'm 590 00:30:38,630 --> 00:30:35,520 going to probably go at the age 18. 591 00:30:40,789 --> 00:30:38,640 it's an adult cartoon 592 00:30:44,389 --> 00:30:40,799 the subjects 593 00:30:46,310 --> 00:30:44,399 it's so quick and so fast um you have to 594 00:30:47,830 --> 00:30:46,320 really pay attention 595 00:30:50,789 --> 00:30:47,840 but 596 00:30:52,950 --> 00:30:50,799 everything that i enjoy 597 00:30:54,230 --> 00:30:52,960 about fade to black 598 00:30:56,950 --> 00:30:54,240 is in 599 00:30:59,750 --> 00:30:56,960 rick and morty all of it 600 00:31:02,230 --> 00:30:59,760 the things and the the phrases the the 601 00:31:04,950 --> 00:31:02,240 things the subjects the ideas the 602 00:31:08,310 --> 00:31:04,960 theories the science the physics 603 00:31:11,190 --> 00:31:08,320 the science fiction the the alien aspect 604 00:31:13,830 --> 00:31:11,200 to it the time travel aspect to it 605 00:31:15,509 --> 00:31:13,840 alternate realities and vortexes and 606 00:31:17,029 --> 00:31:15,519 portals and 607 00:31:24,149 --> 00:31:17,039 and 608 00:31:26,870 --> 00:31:24,159 can i go 609 00:31:30,389 --> 00:31:26,880 and and enlist all of these great 610 00:31:34,389 --> 00:31:30,399 programs of 2021 and they have been 611 00:31:36,789 --> 00:31:34,399 fantastic the man in the high castle 612 00:31:40,470 --> 00:31:36,799 rick and morty may be the best 613 00:31:43,430 --> 00:31:40,480 tv series on television right now and 614 00:31:45,710 --> 00:31:43,440 maybe in the history of television 615 00:31:50,070 --> 00:31:45,720 so that's my list for 616 00:31:53,190 --> 00:31:50,080 2021 it has been a great year 617 00:31:55,750 --> 00:31:53,200 uh for for television and 618 00:31:57,990 --> 00:31:55,760 for knowledge and learning so go and 619 00:31:59,909 --> 00:31:58,000 check all of these out if you if you 620 00:32:02,070 --> 00:31:59,919 didn't get it all you didn't get the 621 00:32:04,230 --> 00:32:02,080 list re-listen to the show 622 00:32:06,710 --> 00:32:04,240 and uh there you go this is fade to 623 00:32:08,149 --> 00:32:06,720 black i am your host jimmy church this 624 00:32:11,990 --> 00:32:08,159 is 625 00:32:14,149 --> 00:32:12,000 our last guest of 2021 and tonight it's 626 00:32:16,149 --> 00:32:14,159 richard bleep and dolan right after the 627 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00:37:42,310 --> 00:37:41,040 black in case you haven't heard 733 00:37:44,630 --> 00:37:42,320 that's right 734 00:37:46,470 --> 00:37:44,640 tomorrow night is our last show of the 735 00:37:47,589 --> 00:37:46,480 year it's on a thursday night it's a 736 00:37:49,270 --> 00:37:47,599 fader night 737 00:37:51,670 --> 00:37:49,280 so we can celebrate together and i'll 738 00:37:52,630 --> 00:37:51,680 take your phone calls all night long but 739 00:37:57,670 --> 00:37:52,640 tonight 740 00:38:00,390 --> 00:37:57,680 it's our last guest of the year for 2021 741 00:38:01,430 --> 00:38:00,400 as it should be it is richard bleepin 742 00:38:03,109 --> 00:38:01,440 dolan 743 00:38:05,030 --> 00:38:03,119 richard one of the world's leading 744 00:38:06,630 --> 00:38:05,040 researchers and writers on the subject 745 00:38:09,670 --> 00:38:06,640 of ufos 746 00:38:12,870 --> 00:38:09,680 he completed his graduate graduate work 747 00:38:14,790 --> 00:38:12,880 graduated work in graduate work at the 748 00:38:16,950 --> 00:38:14,800 university of rochester where he studied 749 00:38:19,349 --> 00:38:16,960 u.s cold war strategy european history 750 00:38:21,670 --> 00:38:19,359 and international diplomacy he also 751 00:38:24,310 --> 00:38:21,680 studied at alfred university in oxford 752 00:38:25,990 --> 00:38:24,320 university he's the author of ufos and 753 00:38:27,910 --> 00:38:26,000 the national security state he 754 00:38:30,790 --> 00:38:27,920 co-authored that with bryce abel 80 755 00:38:33,829 --> 00:38:30,800 after disclosure ufos in the 21st 756 00:38:36,950 --> 00:38:33,839 century mine and his latest the alien 757 00:38:38,630 --> 00:38:36,960 agenda he also hosts his weekly show on 758 00:38:42,670 --> 00:38:38,640 youtube and of course over on his 759 00:38:44,230 --> 00:38:42,680 website everybody needs to head over to 760 00:38:46,390 --> 00:38:44,240 richarddolanmembers.com and i would like 761 00:38:47,030 --> 00:38:46,400 to welcome back to fade to black we made 762 00:38:51,829 --> 00:38:47,040 it 763 00:38:54,870 --> 00:38:51,839 doing sir hi jimmy how are you 764 00:38:57,510 --> 00:38:54,880 i'm good how was your christmas 765 00:38:59,270 --> 00:38:57,520 it was fun it was fine very nice it just 766 00:39:00,870 --> 00:38:59,280 just fine 767 00:39:02,630 --> 00:39:00,880 i had a very 768 00:39:04,230 --> 00:39:02,640 you know i'm hearing some feedback i'm 769 00:39:06,790 --> 00:39:04,240 actually getting a little bit of reverb 770 00:39:09,430 --> 00:39:06,800 reverb here it's not for me 771 00:39:11,430 --> 00:39:09,440 oh yes my headphones and everything yeah 772 00:39:13,589 --> 00:39:11,440 and you look so professional so now you 773 00:39:15,270 --> 00:39:13,599 have to ignore it yeah all right i think 774 00:39:16,950 --> 00:39:15,280 it's good now i think it just went away 775 00:39:17,990 --> 00:39:16,960 so that makes it a lot easier to talk 776 00:39:20,630 --> 00:39:18,000 with you 777 00:39:22,870 --> 00:39:20,640 i had a fine christmas it was perfectly 778 00:39:25,109 --> 00:39:22,880 perfectly nice actually it was somewhat 779 00:39:27,349 --> 00:39:25,119 quiet but it was good i did some reading 780 00:39:29,589 --> 00:39:27,359 i did some work and 781 00:39:32,710 --> 00:39:29,599 it was all very good yeah good for you 782 00:39:34,710 --> 00:39:32,720 and uh uh my best to uh you and the 783 00:39:37,030 --> 00:39:34,720 family and happy holidays and here we 784 00:39:39,349 --> 00:39:37,040 are it's new year's week hey i'm giving 785 00:39:40,829 --> 00:39:39,359 a happy new year's message from tracy 786 00:39:44,310 --> 00:39:40,839 and myself 787 00:39:46,550 --> 00:39:44,320 we uh just want to lay that out put that 788 00:39:48,630 --> 00:39:46,560 out for everyone out there to hear yeah 789 00:39:50,870 --> 00:39:48,640 and and and thank you for that tracy and 790 00:39:53,270 --> 00:39:50,880 right back at you i'm just gonna let you 791 00:39:54,870 --> 00:39:53,280 know richard i got a flood of emails 792 00:39:57,589 --> 00:39:54,880 today about you 793 00:39:59,270 --> 00:39:57,599 one right after another 794 00:40:00,870 --> 00:39:59,280 don't forget 795 00:40:02,550 --> 00:40:00,880 the last song 796 00:40:04,550 --> 00:40:02,560 that he listened to today and i was like 797 00:40:06,550 --> 00:40:04,560 man this is like some kind of crazy 798 00:40:11,750 --> 00:40:06,560 tradition oh people don't like to hear 799 00:40:16,630 --> 00:40:13,589 and and so they'd be like all right 800 00:40:18,550 --> 00:40:16,640 enough with this song yeah you know 801 00:40:20,710 --> 00:40:18,560 isn't that kind of cool though 802 00:40:23,109 --> 00:40:20,720 everything with the song yes people pay 803 00:40:24,390 --> 00:40:23,119 attention man they pay attention 804 00:40:27,829 --> 00:40:24,400 so i've got to think about this i 805 00:40:29,990 --> 00:40:27,839 actually had not thought about it and um 806 00:40:31,510 --> 00:40:30,000 are you asking me yes i am you are 807 00:40:32,470 --> 00:40:31,520 asking so 808 00:40:34,630 --> 00:40:32,480 i had 809 00:40:36,829 --> 00:40:34,640 the last thing that i listened to that i 810 00:40:39,589 --> 00:40:36,839 remember listening to i had 811 00:40:41,670 --> 00:40:39,599 um i did have music on and it was 812 00:40:43,589 --> 00:40:41,680 classical music so i'm apologizing to 813 00:40:45,430 --> 00:40:43,599 everyone because it's not exciting 814 00:40:48,470 --> 00:40:45,440 and it was a classical piece and i 815 00:40:50,950 --> 00:40:48,480 believe it was by uh chopin with some 816 00:40:52,470 --> 00:40:50,960 piano music one of the pollinators or 817 00:40:55,190 --> 00:40:52,480 nocturne or one of those i can't 818 00:40:56,309 --> 00:40:55,200 remember the exact piece 819 00:40:58,390 --> 00:40:56,319 you know 820 00:41:00,790 --> 00:40:58,400 that's impressive though 821 00:41:02,790 --> 00:41:00,800 you know angels came down to create 822 00:41:04,630 --> 00:41:02,800 music they might 823 00:41:07,030 --> 00:41:04,640 almost be as good as frederick chopin 824 00:41:08,630 --> 00:41:07,040 yeah almost almost and you're right 825 00:41:11,589 --> 00:41:08,640 divinely inspired 826 00:41:15,270 --> 00:41:11,599 the last thing i listened to today 827 00:41:18,390 --> 00:41:15,280 was all moving parts stand still by 828 00:41:19,349 --> 00:41:18,400 black sabbath off of technical ecstasy 829 00:41:23,670 --> 00:41:19,359 similar 830 00:41:28,790 --> 00:41:27,349 devils came up if angels came down 831 00:41:32,309 --> 00:41:28,800 oh man 832 00:41:35,190 --> 00:41:32,319 um but uh yeah that that that was my day 833 00:41:37,829 --> 00:41:35,200 today i was very excited uh 834 00:41:40,069 --> 00:41:37,839 about our conversation tonight and uh 835 00:41:41,109 --> 00:41:40,079 last night i had on uh peter robbins our 836 00:41:43,670 --> 00:41:41,119 good friend 837 00:41:45,670 --> 00:41:43,680 yes he's my buddy yeah i'm so glad to 838 00:41:47,430 --> 00:41:45,680 know that yeah and we talked a little 839 00:41:48,790 --> 00:41:47,440 bit about you last night we talked about 840 00:41:51,990 --> 00:41:48,800 helen wheels 841 00:41:53,510 --> 00:41:52,000 and uh but then yes but uh and what it 842 00:41:55,589 --> 00:41:53,520 what an incredible story and she was 843 00:41:57,270 --> 00:41:55,599 just an incredible person but did you 844 00:41:59,349 --> 00:41:57,280 guys get to talk about their her 845 00:42:02,550 --> 00:41:59,359 abductions yes yes he did and then the 846 00:42:08,309 --> 00:42:02,560 fact that peter was right there yes 12 847 00:42:10,230 --> 00:42:08,319 years old and peter was 14 and 1961 1961 848 00:42:12,150 --> 00:42:10,240 and then several months before the hill 849 00:42:13,270 --> 00:42:12,160 abduction came which is which is just 850 00:42:15,190 --> 00:42:13,280 incredible 851 00:42:16,870 --> 00:42:15,200 and uh he had said last night he said 852 00:42:19,349 --> 00:42:16,880 you know jimmy i'm just going to tell 853 00:42:20,150 --> 00:42:19,359 all of your listeners to go 854 00:42:26,309 --> 00:42:20,160 uh 855 00:42:29,349 --> 00:42:26,319 thing that he did on that and and 856 00:42:31,190 --> 00:42:29,359 uh it was one of the most in-depth uh 857 00:42:34,069 --> 00:42:31,200 uh shows 858 00:42:37,190 --> 00:42:34,079 on helen and and what went down 859 00:42:39,109 --> 00:42:37,200 and uh so yeah uh we uh we did we did a 860 00:42:41,109 --> 00:42:39,119 very in-depth conversation about that 861 00:42:43,510 --> 00:42:41,119 it's true and it was amazing because 862 00:42:44,550 --> 00:42:43,520 peter had talked about this for many 863 00:42:47,430 --> 00:42:44,560 years but 864 00:42:49,990 --> 00:42:47,440 he hadn't honestly done uh like a full 865 00:42:51,510 --> 00:42:50,000 presentation on it to my knowledge 866 00:42:53,829 --> 00:42:51,520 almost anywhere 867 00:42:55,510 --> 00:42:53,839 and i i talk with peter a lot we're 868 00:42:57,910 --> 00:42:55,520 really good friends we don't live that 869 00:43:00,790 --> 00:42:57,920 far from each other a couple of hours 870 00:43:02,470 --> 00:43:00,800 and i mean i love the man i love the man 871 00:43:04,950 --> 00:43:02,480 and um 872 00:43:07,829 --> 00:43:04,960 and i it occurred to me that he had not 873 00:43:10,230 --> 00:43:07,839 like this is such a fundamental element 874 00:43:12,309 --> 00:43:10,240 not just in his life but actually in the 875 00:43:13,750 --> 00:43:12,319 history of the ufo subject it's one of 876 00:43:17,190 --> 00:43:13,760 the earliest 877 00:43:18,710 --> 00:43:17,200 really solid cases for gray alien 878 00:43:21,910 --> 00:43:18,720 abduction 879 00:43:24,710 --> 00:43:21,920 absolutely and and to 880 00:43:27,589 --> 00:43:24,720 to know that this this is the thing 881 00:43:32,150 --> 00:43:27,599 about about that entire case 882 00:43:34,630 --> 00:43:32,160 what peter and helen ended up growing up 883 00:43:37,750 --> 00:43:34,640 and doing with their lives 884 00:43:40,950 --> 00:43:37,760 um they were both uh 885 00:43:41,990 --> 00:43:40,960 very successful and and and and part of 886 00:43:49,990 --> 00:43:42,000 uh 887 00:43:54,390 --> 00:43:50,000 community of of new york 888 00:43:57,349 --> 00:43:54,400 and she was so dynamic and and so uh 889 00:43:58,870 --> 00:43:57,359 powerful as a as an individual 890 00:44:01,190 --> 00:43:58,880 and and then people she's an original 891 00:44:03,109 --> 00:44:01,200 punk rocker she's getting cbgb's and 892 00:44:05,750 --> 00:44:03,119 she's like they all knew her she knew 893 00:44:07,750 --> 00:44:05,760 them she just never got the break 894 00:44:08,870 --> 00:44:07,760 that a lot of those other bands did get 895 00:44:12,790 --> 00:44:08,880 yeah 896 00:44:15,589 --> 00:44:12,800 and then of course you know peter going 897 00:44:16,870 --> 00:44:15,599 on to uh to write and to publish and who 898 00:44:19,589 --> 00:44:16,880 he is today 899 00:44:21,270 --> 00:44:19,599 um but to think that 900 00:44:23,109 --> 00:44:21,280 those two 901 00:44:26,870 --> 00:44:23,119 who were just so 902 00:44:29,349 --> 00:44:26,880 um uh dynamic right and outgoing and 903 00:44:30,550 --> 00:44:29,359 everything that they went through that 904 00:44:33,190 --> 00:44:30,560 together 905 00:44:35,670 --> 00:44:33,200 at the age of 12 and at the age of 14. 906 00:44:37,109 --> 00:44:35,680 it's just an incredible story it's 907 00:44:42,470 --> 00:44:37,119 remarkable 908 00:44:44,390 --> 00:44:42,480 it's and honestly 909 00:44:46,230 --> 00:44:44,400 it's one of these things where the 910 00:44:48,470 --> 00:44:46,240 encounter phenomenon let's call it the 911 00:44:51,750 --> 00:44:48,480 encounter or the abduction phenomenon 912 00:44:53,430 --> 00:44:51,760 affects people like folks who are not 913 00:44:55,430 --> 00:44:53,440 familiar with the ufo subject they have 914 00:44:57,430 --> 00:44:55,440 i don't think they have any idea just 915 00:44:59,670 --> 00:44:57,440 how deep this thing is because when you 916 00:45:02,470 --> 00:44:59,680 have such an experience like that it 917 00:45:04,309 --> 00:45:02,480 changes your life and and often in ways 918 00:45:07,190 --> 00:45:04,319 that you just don't want it to change 919 00:45:10,069 --> 00:45:07,200 peter did not want to devote his life in 920 00:45:12,550 --> 00:45:10,079 ufo research he had other plans 921 00:45:13,510 --> 00:45:12,560 and this thing really derailed 922 00:45:14,550 --> 00:45:13,520 his 923 00:45:16,790 --> 00:45:14,560 career 924 00:45:18,630 --> 00:45:16,800 path and in the case of his sister helen 925 00:45:20,150 --> 00:45:18,640 who i really wish i'd gotten to meet her 926 00:45:22,150 --> 00:45:20,160 i never did 927 00:45:23,109 --> 00:45:22,160 but um 928 00:45:30,150 --> 00:45:23,119 she 929 00:45:32,550 --> 00:45:30,160 a resilient person from everything that 930 00:45:34,230 --> 00:45:32,560 i was able to learn about her 931 00:45:36,950 --> 00:45:34,240 and so it wasn't like it wrecked her 932 00:45:38,950 --> 00:45:36,960 life but it it deeply deeply imprinted 933 00:45:40,790 --> 00:45:38,960 on her consciousness 934 00:45:42,950 --> 00:45:40,800 in ways and i don't think you know i 935 00:45:46,069 --> 00:45:42,960 doubt that she ever truly resolved what 936 00:45:47,510 --> 00:45:46,079 she had experienced i mean how do you 937 00:45:48,870 --> 00:45:47,520 right when you have this 938 00:45:51,109 --> 00:45:48,880 and in her case i don't think it 939 00:45:53,270 --> 00:45:51,119 required she did end up doing some 940 00:45:55,270 --> 00:45:53,280 regression with bud hopkins but 941 00:45:57,990 --> 00:45:55,280 she had conscious memory of it yeah she 942 00:46:02,309 --> 00:45:58,000 remembers his years yeah yeah yeah 943 00:46:03,750 --> 00:46:02,319 and the opposite of of peter where you 944 00:46:05,910 --> 00:46:03,760 know and he said last night and i've 945 00:46:07,670 --> 00:46:05,920 talked to him about this before 946 00:46:09,430 --> 00:46:07,680 i wanted to spend more time on this last 947 00:46:11,270 --> 00:46:09,440 night but anyway 948 00:46:12,829 --> 00:46:11,280 you could tell 949 00:46:14,790 --> 00:46:12,839 when he 950 00:46:17,030 --> 00:46:14,800 said my 951 00:46:20,470 --> 00:46:17,040 my mind protected me 952 00:46:22,870 --> 00:46:20,480 it just buried this and 953 00:46:23,910 --> 00:46:22,880 and when it came back 954 00:46:26,630 --> 00:46:23,920 uh 955 00:46:30,309 --> 00:46:26,640 i i don't want to put words in his mouth 956 00:46:32,390 --> 00:46:30,319 but it it did not it was not a positive 957 00:46:34,309 --> 00:46:32,400 it was not a positive thing that he 958 00:46:36,309 --> 00:46:34,319 wanted he upset him yeah yeah it upset 959 00:46:39,190 --> 00:46:36,319 him great people i'm glad you you did 960 00:46:41,190 --> 00:46:39,200 this with peter because i feel like 961 00:46:42,630 --> 00:46:41,200 he's such a great guy for for everyone 962 00:46:44,870 --> 00:46:42,640 to know about 963 00:46:46,710 --> 00:46:44,880 and and it when you know him personally 964 00:46:47,510 --> 00:46:46,720 and i know peter 965 00:46:50,150 --> 00:46:47,520 uh 966 00:46:51,990 --> 00:46:50,160 i mean i've i sleep over at his place we 967 00:46:54,550 --> 00:46:52,000 have slept over my place many times like 968 00:46:55,990 --> 00:46:54,560 we we're we're like brothers 969 00:46:58,230 --> 00:46:56,000 and i can just tell you he is one of the 970 00:47:00,069 --> 00:46:58,240 most scrupulously incredibly 971 00:47:01,349 --> 00:47:00,079 conscientious and honest people you'll 972 00:47:03,670 --> 00:47:01,359 ever meet 973 00:47:05,829 --> 00:47:03,680 so when peter tells you a story is 974 00:47:08,870 --> 00:47:05,839 incredible as it sounds 975 00:47:12,309 --> 00:47:08,880 it's true right man does not he cannot 976 00:47:14,470 --> 00:47:12,319 lie it's not in him there's a book there 977 00:47:17,190 --> 00:47:14,480 there's a book there and 978 00:47:19,990 --> 00:47:17,200 uh and he may have to 979 00:47:22,549 --> 00:47:20,000 he may have to uh devote some time to 980 00:47:24,790 --> 00:47:22,559 that i think that you know what yes 981 00:47:26,390 --> 00:47:24,800 shelve your next book 982 00:47:29,510 --> 00:47:26,400 and uh put it to the side it's already 983 00:47:30,790 --> 00:47:29,520 taken five years so what's you know uh 984 00:47:32,790 --> 00:47:30,800 i've written a bunch of books in the 985 00:47:35,030 --> 00:47:32,800 last five years all right i have i have 986 00:47:36,470 --> 00:47:35,040 done things why do you get so defensive 987 00:47:39,270 --> 00:47:36,480 every time i give you a hard time you're 988 00:47:41,589 --> 00:47:39,280 the only one who's like when's your 989 00:47:44,390 --> 00:47:41,599 third volume coming out 990 00:47:46,630 --> 00:47:44,400 and all i will say is it bugs me that 991 00:47:48,950 --> 00:47:46,640 it's not out as well right so you're not 992 00:47:51,589 --> 00:47:48,960 the only one now since i feel a little 993 00:47:54,069 --> 00:47:51,599 prickly about it the 994 00:47:55,829 --> 00:47:54,079 the uh okay let's get um prickly let's 995 00:47:57,910 --> 00:47:55,839 get on prickly and i'm i'm in a great 996 00:48:01,030 --> 00:47:57,920 mood richard and thank you 997 00:48:03,589 --> 00:48:01,040 uh tonight you're you're uh you're doing 998 00:48:05,829 --> 00:48:03,599 uh uh a double uh 999 00:48:07,910 --> 00:48:05,839 uh what do you call it in baseball when 1000 00:48:09,910 --> 00:48:07,920 you have a double header yeah double 1001 00:48:11,270 --> 00:48:09,920 header back to back uh right now i'm at 1002 00:48:14,069 --> 00:48:11,280 the plate with you and i'm on deck with 1003 00:48:16,390 --> 00:48:14,079 coast to coast right after this so 1004 00:48:17,670 --> 00:48:16,400 i i i mentioned in the opening of the 1005 00:48:21,589 --> 00:48:17,680 show i'm going to call you first thing 1006 00:48:23,829 --> 00:48:21,599 in the morning how you doing you bastard 1007 00:48:26,069 --> 00:48:23,839 okay my phone will be on airplane 1008 00:48:27,190 --> 00:48:26,079 good luck yeah yeah exactly straight to 1009 00:48:28,510 --> 00:48:27,200 voicemail 1010 00:48:31,270 --> 00:48:28,520 um 1011 00:48:33,030 --> 00:48:31,280 2021 yes 1012 00:48:40,150 --> 00:48:33,040 i 1013 00:48:43,030 --> 00:48:40,160 of shows of course and and new year's 1014 00:48:46,630 --> 00:48:43,040 being on friday but as i started to look 1015 00:48:47,829 --> 00:48:46,640 back at 2021 1016 00:48:52,150 --> 00:48:47,839 and 1017 00:48:54,390 --> 00:48:52,160 there are probably a dozen or so 1018 00:48:56,870 --> 00:48:54,400 uh ufo uap 1019 00:48:59,829 --> 00:48:56,880 related stories and headlines 1020 00:49:02,309 --> 00:48:59,839 that in any other year one of those 1021 00:49:04,069 --> 00:49:02,319 would be huge galactic you know 1022 00:49:06,710 --> 00:49:04,079 barnstorming news 1023 00:49:07,670 --> 00:49:06,720 and we had it all year long 1024 00:49:11,910 --> 00:49:07,680 and 1025 00:49:14,230 --> 00:49:11,920 memories a little bit going that's right 1026 00:49:17,270 --> 00:49:14,240 that's right that's right 1027 00:49:19,589 --> 00:49:17,280 and it wasn't just one thing it was an 1028 00:49:22,790 --> 00:49:19,599 incredible year for 1029 00:49:26,390 --> 00:49:22,800 for ufology and and what is going on did 1030 00:49:27,430 --> 00:49:26,400 you ever expect to see this in 2021 like 1031 00:49:31,270 --> 00:49:27,440 we did 1032 00:49:32,069 --> 00:49:31,280 you're absolutely right you know we had 1033 00:49:34,150 --> 00:49:32,079 uh 1034 00:49:35,829 --> 00:49:34,160 there were more articles in the spring 1035 00:49:38,549 --> 00:49:35,839 remember all the all the stuff that came 1036 00:49:40,829 --> 00:49:38,559 out on more navy ufo encounters or uap 1037 00:49:43,589 --> 00:49:40,839 encounters that just happened in what 1038 00:49:45,670 --> 00:49:43,599 2019-2020 i mean quite recent that came 1039 00:49:47,910 --> 00:49:45,680 out uh 1040 00:49:48,790 --> 00:49:47,920 we had the the leak of those images to 1041 00:49:50,710 --> 00:49:48,800 uh 1042 00:49:53,030 --> 00:49:50,720 jeremy corbell and george knapp we had 1043 00:49:55,589 --> 00:49:53,040 the new yorker article remember oh harry 1044 00:49:57,990 --> 00:49:55,599 reid just died yeah and hair right and 1045 00:50:00,309 --> 00:49:58,000 yeah and i was gonna do that at the top 1046 00:50:02,870 --> 00:50:00,319 of the hour but oh sorry yeah yeah the 1047 00:50:05,109 --> 00:50:02,880 new yorker article which uh quoted harry 1048 00:50:07,750 --> 00:50:05,119 reid in his statement about lockheed 1049 00:50:09,670 --> 00:50:07,760 martin remember that he's essentially 1050 00:50:11,430 --> 00:50:09,680 just saying yes lockheed's got the 1051 00:50:13,109 --> 00:50:11,440 secrets and then he had to walk that 1052 00:50:15,349 --> 00:50:13,119 back on twitter 1053 00:50:17,030 --> 00:50:15,359 uh i think 60 minutes did the whole 1054 00:50:19,750 --> 00:50:17,040 thing on ufos last spring and then we 1055 00:50:21,349 --> 00:50:19,760 had the uap task force report we had a 1056 00:50:22,549 --> 00:50:21,359 show the first half of the year we had 1057 00:50:29,109 --> 00:50:22,559 showtime 1058 00:50:31,990 --> 00:50:29,119 critical of that yeah we discussed that 1059 00:50:32,950 --> 00:50:32,000 yeah we did and it just and 1060 00:50:37,589 --> 00:50:32,960 uh 1061 00:50:40,710 --> 00:50:37,599 the biggest things of the year which got 1062 00:50:42,549 --> 00:50:40,720 overshadowed by the uap task force 1063 00:50:43,829 --> 00:50:42,559 report 1064 00:50:47,190 --> 00:50:43,839 was the 1065 00:50:49,990 --> 00:50:47,200 uh memorandum for senior pentagon 1066 00:50:51,829 --> 00:50:50,000 leadership from the deputy secretary of 1067 00:50:55,190 --> 00:50:51,839 defense 1068 00:50:57,990 --> 00:50:55,200 about uaps and how it would be handled 1069 00:50:59,109 --> 00:50:58,000 in the future and this was 1070 00:51:04,870 --> 00:50:59,119 uh 1071 00:51:07,750 --> 00:51:04,880 policies go into place 1072 00:51:10,470 --> 00:51:07,760 and the subject in that title which was 1073 00:51:11,910 --> 00:51:10,480 released the same days the uap task 1074 00:51:14,230 --> 00:51:11,920 force report 1075 00:51:15,910 --> 00:51:14,240 unidentified aerial phenomena 1076 00:51:17,349 --> 00:51:15,920 assessments 1077 00:51:19,430 --> 00:51:17,359 and 1078 00:51:21,270 --> 00:51:19,440 i think that was one of the the biggest 1079 00:51:24,309 --> 00:51:21,280 events of the year and it ended up 1080 00:51:26,470 --> 00:51:24,319 getting overshadowed 1081 00:51:27,670 --> 00:51:26,480 well what's evident yes there's i agree 1082 00:51:29,589 --> 00:51:27,680 with you that was an important 1083 00:51:31,990 --> 00:51:29,599 development and but what you ended up 1084 00:51:34,950 --> 00:51:32,000 seeing of course later in the year 1085 00:51:36,390 --> 00:51:34,960 in fact quite recently you have 1086 00:51:37,589 --> 00:51:36,400 it looks to me i want to ask what you 1087 00:51:39,430 --> 00:51:37,599 think about this 1088 00:51:40,950 --> 00:51:39,440 uh competing elements within the 1089 00:51:43,670 --> 00:51:40,960 pentagon yes 1090 00:51:46,630 --> 00:51:43,680 relating to how to 1091 00:51:48,309 --> 00:51:46,640 pursue this subject of uap 1092 00:51:51,750 --> 00:51:48,319 as they're now calling it 1093 00:51:53,750 --> 00:51:51,760 moving forward so in the beginning of 1094 00:51:56,630 --> 00:51:53,760 november i think that was when the 1095 00:51:57,990 --> 00:51:56,640 gillibrand amendment was 1096 00:52:01,589 --> 00:51:58,000 announced 1097 00:52:04,390 --> 00:52:01,599 december december 9th uh is when 1098 00:52:06,470 --> 00:52:04,400 uh her press release went out no no but 1099 00:52:07,829 --> 00:52:06,480 actually no i think it was quite a bit 1100 00:52:08,870 --> 00:52:07,839 earlier than that i think she talked 1101 00:52:10,309 --> 00:52:08,880 about it 1102 00:52:11,990 --> 00:52:10,319 um 1103 00:52:13,510 --> 00:52:12,000 it was i think 1104 00:52:16,069 --> 00:52:13,520 promoted as early as the beginning of 1105 00:52:18,630 --> 00:52:16,079 november well i'm looking at this is her 1106 00:52:21,910 --> 00:52:18,640 press release from kirsten gillibrand 1107 00:52:24,069 --> 00:52:21,920 her office december 9th 2021. 1108 00:52:25,109 --> 00:52:24,079 gillibrand's uh out uh i don't think 1109 00:52:26,630 --> 00:52:25,119 that was the first time we heard about 1110 00:52:28,710 --> 00:52:26,640 it no no 1111 00:52:30,230 --> 00:52:28,720 they were working on it it was correct 1112 00:52:33,829 --> 00:52:30,240 correct but the press release from her 1113 00:52:35,030 --> 00:52:33,839 office uh it came out december 9th okay 1114 00:52:37,349 --> 00:52:35,040 and uh 1115 00:52:39,430 --> 00:52:37,359 and and which breaks down the five parts 1116 00:52:43,589 --> 00:52:39,440 but yes you're right though 1117 00:52:46,390 --> 00:52:43,599 uh this is competing with the ndaa and 1118 00:52:49,270 --> 00:52:46,400 the verbiage in the budget for 1119 00:52:51,829 --> 00:52:49,280 intelligence for 2022. yes right so the 1120 00:52:54,549 --> 00:52:51,839 pentagon they they rolled up the navy 1121 00:52:57,030 --> 00:52:54,559 uap task force into something this most 1122 00:52:59,190 --> 00:52:57,040 horrific title of it organization 1123 00:53:02,430 --> 00:52:59,200 as i've got it right here airborne 1124 00:53:05,030 --> 00:53:02,440 object identification and management 1125 00:53:06,870 --> 00:53:05,040 synchronization group 1126 00:53:09,990 --> 00:53:06,880 that should be like a health hazard just 1127 00:53:11,990 --> 00:53:10,000 to say it aoimsg 1128 00:53:14,470 --> 00:53:12,000 it says nothing whatsoever 1129 00:53:16,549 --> 00:53:14,480 so that that's what they have proposed 1130 00:53:19,109 --> 00:53:16,559 to replace the task force that the navy 1131 00:53:20,950 --> 00:53:19,119 had and that's just a very tepid very 1132 00:53:22,390 --> 00:53:20,960 weak organization the way they've got 1133 00:53:24,390 --> 00:53:22,400 that and then you've got what 1134 00:53:25,990 --> 00:53:24,400 gillibrand's amendment 1135 00:53:28,549 --> 00:53:26,000 in the ndaa 1136 00:53:30,630 --> 00:53:28,559 promoted which uh i mean the word on the 1137 00:53:32,870 --> 00:53:30,640 street is that christopher mellon was 1138 00:53:34,390 --> 00:53:32,880 behind the scenes helping craft that i 1139 00:53:36,549 --> 00:53:34,400 would have no doubt if that were true i 1140 00:53:39,510 --> 00:53:36,559 don't have a confirmation 1141 00:53:41,510 --> 00:53:39,520 but the uh they're proposing the and 1142 00:53:44,470 --> 00:53:41,520 it's been passed because biden cited the 1143 00:53:47,349 --> 00:53:44,480 anomalous surveillance and resolution 1144 00:53:48,630 --> 00:53:47,359 office that's a better title asrow 1145 00:53:51,190 --> 00:53:48,640 and um 1146 00:53:53,109 --> 00:53:51,200 that's it i mean on paper anyway my take 1147 00:53:54,950 --> 00:53:53,119 is that this 1148 00:53:57,510 --> 00:53:54,960 organization 1149 00:53:59,510 --> 00:53:57,520 would be actually a 1150 00:54:01,109 --> 00:53:59,520 on paper you know everything has 1151 00:54:04,309 --> 00:54:01,119 we have to see how this turns out but it 1152 00:54:05,910 --> 00:54:04,319 would be a seemingly robust organization 1153 00:54:07,190 --> 00:54:05,920 uh the way i'm reading it you know 1154 00:54:09,109 --> 00:54:07,200 they're supposed to be conducting 1155 00:54:11,109 --> 00:54:09,119 serious investigations of 1156 00:54:12,870 --> 00:54:11,119 all ufo events or at least significant 1157 00:54:15,030 --> 00:54:12,880 events in the us 1158 00:54:16,710 --> 00:54:15,040 like actual field investigations is that 1159 00:54:18,549 --> 00:54:16,720 possible and they're supposed to develop 1160 00:54:20,150 --> 00:54:18,559 theories and potential answers to this 1161 00:54:23,030 --> 00:54:20,160 and report 1162 00:54:25,030 --> 00:54:23,040 to congress whereas the the 1163 00:54:27,190 --> 00:54:25,040 aoi msg 1164 00:54:28,870 --> 00:54:27,200 that the pentagon was proposing uh i 1165 00:54:31,190 --> 00:54:28,880 don't think is going to do any of that 1166 00:54:34,870 --> 00:54:31,200 and so they both seem to exist now and 1167 00:54:36,470 --> 00:54:34,880 they they had another okay okay so let's 1168 00:54:39,109 --> 00:54:36,480 talk about the competing elements of 1169 00:54:40,309 --> 00:54:39,119 this before we get uh to the break 1170 00:54:43,910 --> 00:54:40,319 because 1171 00:54:47,270 --> 00:54:43,920 uh when you look at uh the quote that 1172 00:54:50,470 --> 00:54:47,280 was released from senator rubio 1173 00:54:52,870 --> 00:54:50,480 uh a part of the gila brand i i want to 1174 00:54:55,190 --> 00:54:52,880 say gillibrand oh we'll go with children 1175 00:54:56,309 --> 00:54:55,200 i know and she's a senator from my state 1176 00:54:58,150 --> 00:54:56,319 yes 1177 00:55:00,710 --> 00:54:58,160 i had to look that up okay 1178 00:55:02,470 --> 00:55:00,720 did she say gillibrand i think it's 1179 00:55:05,190 --> 00:55:02,480 gillibrand okay 1180 00:55:06,390 --> 00:55:05,200 so i looked this up on uh like on 1181 00:55:09,190 --> 00:55:06,400 the internet you can say like how to 1182 00:55:10,549 --> 00:55:09,200 pronounce certain words yes it's useful 1183 00:55:11,910 --> 00:55:10,559 yes for people like us like because we 1184 00:55:14,950 --> 00:55:11,920 have to say these things every now and 1185 00:55:16,950 --> 00:55:14,960 then and i don't follow this person 1186 00:55:18,870 --> 00:55:16,960 i hate these people like i hate most of 1187 00:55:21,109 --> 00:55:18,880 the senators in the united states 1188 00:55:22,630 --> 00:55:21,119 government so i had to look up her name 1189 00:55:24,950 --> 00:55:22,640 and and find out how do you pronounce it 1190 00:55:27,589 --> 00:55:24,960 it's with i think a soft g okay so it's 1191 00:55:31,349 --> 00:55:27,599 gillibrand we'll go with gillibrand uh 1192 00:55:32,309 --> 00:55:31,359 rubio says this and it's it's this quote 1193 00:55:34,549 --> 00:55:32,319 that 1194 00:55:37,190 --> 00:55:34,559 just blows my mind he says 1195 00:55:39,349 --> 00:55:37,200 it is my hope that the creation of a new 1196 00:55:42,230 --> 00:55:39,359 joint defense department and 1197 00:55:43,990 --> 00:55:42,240 intelligence community office and right 1198 00:55:46,630 --> 00:55:44,000 there it's like stop 1199 00:55:49,190 --> 00:55:46,640 so for the first time in history we're 1200 00:55:49,990 --> 00:55:49,200 gonna have the pentagon 1201 00:55:54,150 --> 00:55:50,000 and 1202 00:55:56,870 --> 00:55:54,160 the intelligence agencies cooperate 1203 00:55:59,589 --> 00:55:56,880 when that that has never been the case 1204 00:56:03,670 --> 00:55:59,599 before that has been a very strong 1205 00:56:05,990 --> 00:56:03,680 competing part of not only the military 1206 00:56:08,710 --> 00:56:06,000 but uh washington dc 1207 00:56:10,870 --> 00:56:08,720 and typically they don't share anything 1208 00:56:12,630 --> 00:56:10,880 with each other unless they have to i 1209 00:56:14,230 --> 00:56:12,640 guess you're referring to cia versus the 1210 00:56:16,230 --> 00:56:14,240 rest of the military system i mean the 1211 00:56:18,230 --> 00:56:16,240 military's got their own intelligence 1212 00:56:20,390 --> 00:56:18,240 departments that's right they are 1213 00:56:22,150 --> 00:56:20,400 technically part of the intelligence 1214 00:56:23,990 --> 00:56:22,160 community um 1215 00:56:26,069 --> 00:56:24,000 but right i mean 1216 00:56:28,069 --> 00:56:26,079 historically 1217 00:56:29,750 --> 00:56:28,079 even within the military they don't 1218 00:56:31,030 --> 00:56:29,760 always cooperate you've got navy 1219 00:56:32,630 --> 00:56:31,040 intelligence you've got air force 1220 00:56:35,030 --> 00:56:32,640 intelligence there's always been rivalry 1221 00:56:37,910 --> 00:56:35,040 there and army intelligence as well 1222 00:56:40,230 --> 00:56:37,920 uh to say nothing of with cia and the 1223 00:56:40,950 --> 00:56:40,240 nro and the nsa 1224 00:56:42,549 --> 00:56:40,960 yes 1225 00:56:44,870 --> 00:56:42,559 right yeah all of that 1226 00:56:46,069 --> 00:56:44,880 so how i don't know are all of these 1227 00:56:47,750 --> 00:56:46,079 because i actually don't know this 1228 00:56:48,870 --> 00:56:47,760 answer are all of the intelligence 1229 00:56:52,630 --> 00:56:48,880 agencies 1230 00:56:55,430 --> 00:56:52,640 responsible for this well if we go back 1231 00:56:56,950 --> 00:56:55,440 to well if we go back to 1232 00:57:00,069 --> 00:56:56,960 the memorandum 1233 00:57:03,750 --> 00:57:00,079 from the deputy secretary of defense 1234 00:57:06,710 --> 00:57:03,760 there were three points um in this 1235 00:57:08,950 --> 00:57:06,720 this directorate okay laying it down one 1236 00:57:11,109 --> 00:57:08,960 established procedures to synchronize 1237 00:57:13,990 --> 00:57:11,119 collection reporting and analysis of the 1238 00:57:16,470 --> 00:57:14,000 uap problem set and to establish 1239 00:57:18,390 --> 00:57:16,480 recommendations for securely military 1240 00:57:20,549 --> 00:57:18,400 test and training ranges 1241 00:57:22,390 --> 00:57:20,559 we're talking about the the uh the aoi 1242 00:57:24,710 --> 00:57:22,400 msg then that's the synchronization 1243 00:57:26,789 --> 00:57:24,720 group i think right yeah well this is 1244 00:57:28,309 --> 00:57:26,799 from the deputy secretary of defense on 1245 00:57:31,589 --> 00:57:28,319 june 25th 1246 00:57:33,430 --> 00:57:31,599 this is the uh the memorandum that she 1247 00:57:35,910 --> 00:57:33,440 uh yeah i think this is what they ended 1248 00:57:36,950 --> 00:57:35,920 up creating oh yes yes yes yes and then 1249 00:57:39,109 --> 00:57:36,960 number two 1250 00:57:41,190 --> 00:57:39,119 identify requirements for establishment 1251 00:57:43,910 --> 00:57:41,200 and operations of the new activity to 1252 00:57:46,549 --> 00:57:43,920 include the organizational alignment 1253 00:57:48,789 --> 00:57:46,559 resources and staffing required as well 1254 00:57:50,950 --> 00:57:48,799 as any necessary authorities and a 1255 00:57:51,990 --> 00:57:50,960 timeline for implementation 1256 00:57:53,910 --> 00:57:52,000 and then 1257 00:57:55,829 --> 00:57:53,920 be developed in coordination with the 1258 00:57:58,789 --> 00:57:55,839 principal staff assistants the chairman 1259 00:58:00,230 --> 00:57:58,799 joint chiefs of staff the secretaries of 1260 00:58:02,549 --> 00:58:00,240 the military departments and the 1261 00:58:05,789 --> 00:58:02,559 commanders of the combatant commands 1262 00:58:08,549 --> 00:58:05,799 within the dni and other relevant 1263 00:58:10,150 --> 00:58:08,559 inter-agency partners 1264 00:58:12,470 --> 00:58:10,160 yeah i don't think there's any reporting 1265 00:58:13,990 --> 00:58:12,480 mandate for them though like is it in 1266 00:58:15,910 --> 00:58:14,000 there that they've got to report their 1267 00:58:19,109 --> 00:58:15,920 findings to congress or the public yes 1268 00:58:21,270 --> 00:58:19,119 she says um uh she says a report from 1269 00:58:23,670 --> 00:58:21,280 the office of the director of national 1270 00:58:25,589 --> 00:58:23,680 intelligence the odni highlights the 1271 00:58:27,829 --> 00:58:25,599 current challenges associated with 1272 00:58:30,870 --> 00:58:27,839 assessing unidentified aerial phenomena 1273 00:58:32,630 --> 00:58:30,880 uap occurring in dod training ranges it 1274 00:58:35,510 --> 00:58:32,640 is critical that the united states 1275 00:58:37,990 --> 00:58:35,520 maintain operations securely and safely 1276 00:58:40,710 --> 00:58:38,000 to this end it is equally critical that 1277 00:58:42,870 --> 00:58:40,720 all u.s military aircrews or government 1278 00:58:46,150 --> 00:58:42,880 personnel report 1279 00:58:48,950 --> 00:58:46,160 whenever aircraft or other devices 1280 00:58:51,750 --> 00:58:48,960 interfere with military training this 1281 00:58:53,589 --> 00:58:51,760 includes the observation and reporting 1282 00:58:56,710 --> 00:58:53,599 of uaps 1283 00:58:57,910 --> 00:58:56,720 and uh so this was again 1284 00:58:59,030 --> 00:58:57,920 sent out 1285 00:59:01,270 --> 00:58:59,040 the day 1286 00:59:03,349 --> 00:59:01,280 that the uap task force report was 1287 00:59:07,670 --> 00:59:03,359 released all right well in the immortal 1288 00:59:09,829 --> 00:59:07,680 words of greta thundberg blah blah blah 1289 00:59:12,230 --> 00:59:09,839 is this really going to go anywhere uh i 1290 00:59:15,349 --> 00:59:12,240 i just i doubt it but i do think that 1291 00:59:17,030 --> 00:59:15,359 that the gillibrand amendment 1292 00:59:19,349 --> 00:59:17,040 um 1293 00:59:21,910 --> 00:59:19,359 was a much stronger 1294 00:59:23,829 --> 00:59:21,920 a much stronger attempt to 1295 00:59:25,510 --> 00:59:23,839 get on top of this but even i don't even 1296 00:59:27,990 --> 00:59:25,520 know if that's gonna amount to anything 1297 00:59:29,990 --> 00:59:28,000 well what she did um her amendment 1298 00:59:31,910 --> 00:59:30,000 breaks down in five parts i don't have 1299 00:59:32,870 --> 00:59:31,920 enough time to get into all of them you 1300 00:59:34,470 --> 00:59:32,880 can 1301 00:59:37,270 --> 00:59:34,480 come back after the break 1302 00:59:40,789 --> 00:59:37,280 but uh number one was the connect 1303 00:59:43,349 --> 00:59:40,799 the collection and analysis of data into 1304 00:59:47,589 --> 00:59:43,359 a central repository 1305 00:59:50,950 --> 00:59:47,599 number two establish a science plan 1306 00:59:53,990 --> 00:59:50,960 to test scientific theories related to 1307 00:59:55,670 --> 00:59:54,000 uap characteristics and performances 1308 00:59:57,109 --> 00:59:55,680 yeah that was amazing that was amazing 1309 00:59:59,030 --> 00:59:57,119 that was quite extraordinary anyway to 1310 01:00:01,910 --> 00:59:59,040 hear that yep and then number three 1311 01:00:03,270 --> 01:00:01,920 build a national priorities intelligence 1312 01:00:05,829 --> 01:00:03,280 framework 1313 01:00:07,910 --> 01:00:05,839 number four evaluate any links between 1314 01:00:11,349 --> 01:00:07,920 uaps and foreign governments or 1315 01:00:14,150 --> 01:00:11,359 non-state actors and then the last one 1316 01:00:16,470 --> 01:00:14,160 was the report to congress and that 1317 01:00:19,829 --> 01:00:16,480 there would be an annual report to 1318 01:00:21,870 --> 01:00:19,839 congress that would be unclassified and 1319 01:00:23,589 --> 01:00:21,880 then a 1320 01:00:26,630 --> 01:00:23,599 classified 1321 01:00:28,789 --> 01:00:26,640 semi-annual briefing to congress so 1322 01:00:30,870 --> 01:00:28,799 twice a year every six months yeah it's 1323 01:00:32,549 --> 01:00:30,880 a much more serious thing and it's a 1324 01:00:34,150 --> 01:00:32,559 separate office it seems to me i think 1325 01:00:36,789 --> 01:00:34,160 that i don't think they're talking about 1326 01:00:38,870 --> 01:00:36,799 the same bureaucracy so you get you've 1327 01:00:40,710 --> 01:00:38,880 got this this is a weird situation the 1328 01:00:42,870 --> 01:00:40,720 potential of two 1329 01:00:45,510 --> 01:00:42,880 what competing or different 1330 01:00:48,309 --> 01:00:45,520 ufo or uap investigative 1331 01:00:50,069 --> 01:00:48,319 offices within the pentagon itself it's 1332 01:00:51,829 --> 01:00:50,079 not that the pentagon hasn't had this in 1333 01:00:53,670 --> 01:00:51,839 the past but those are all classified 1334 01:00:55,589 --> 01:00:53,680 those are not those are not publicly 1335 01:00:58,630 --> 01:00:55,599 acknowledged like 1336 01:01:00,150 --> 01:00:58,640 ufo investigative organizations and here 1337 01:01:02,549 --> 01:01:00,160 it seems to me unless i'm missing 1338 01:01:05,349 --> 01:01:02,559 something that we may have too 1339 01:01:08,069 --> 01:01:05,359 and simultaneously and and rubio am i 1340 01:01:10,710 --> 01:01:08,079 wrong here no you're not wrong and the 1341 01:01:14,069 --> 01:01:10,720 other part to me which i think is the 1342 01:01:16,390 --> 01:01:14,079 most extraordinary is they are 1343 01:01:19,430 --> 01:01:16,400 putting into legislation 1344 01:01:21,990 --> 01:01:19,440 cooperation between the intelligence 1345 01:01:24,069 --> 01:01:22,000 agencies and the department of defense 1346 01:01:26,789 --> 01:01:24,079 and that this would be collected in a 1347 01:01:29,910 --> 01:01:26,799 central repository and then handed over 1348 01:01:31,190 --> 01:01:29,920 to congress that's strong 1349 01:01:33,349 --> 01:01:31,200 yeah i think there's going to be a lot 1350 01:01:36,470 --> 01:01:33,359 that's missing we should talk about this 1351 01:01:37,670 --> 01:01:36,480 because i think there's a huge amount 1352 01:01:38,789 --> 01:01:37,680 of uh 1353 01:01:40,390 --> 01:01:38,799 of information that's going to be 1354 01:01:42,230 --> 01:01:40,400 missing from all of this and will 1355 01:01:43,430 --> 01:01:42,240 continue to be missing and 1356 01:01:45,190 --> 01:01:43,440 and then you know the next time we have 1357 01:01:48,789 --> 01:01:45,200 another big crisis probably sometime in 1358 01:01:50,390 --> 01:01:48,799 2022 we'll all forget about this anyway 1359 01:01:54,150 --> 01:01:50,400 you know maybe this will all go away i 1360 01:01:56,150 --> 01:01:54,160 mean i really i'm just so i have 1361 01:01:57,270 --> 01:01:56,160 little to no hope 1362 01:01:59,990 --> 01:01:57,280 in the 1363 01:02:01,750 --> 01:02:00,000 good will and follow-through of the 1364 01:02:04,630 --> 01:02:01,760 united states government on pretty much 1365 01:02:06,470 --> 01:02:04,640 anything at this point so even 1366 01:02:07,589 --> 01:02:06,480 you know the the gillibrand amendment i 1367 01:02:08,710 --> 01:02:07,599 will say 1368 01:02:10,390 --> 01:02:08,720 sounded 1369 01:02:12,230 --> 01:02:10,400 pretty darn good 1370 01:02:14,789 --> 01:02:12,240 from a ufo 1371 01:02:16,630 --> 01:02:14,799 advocate point of view uh compared with 1372 01:02:18,069 --> 01:02:16,640 everything that we have seen 1373 01:02:21,349 --> 01:02:18,079 coming from the united states government 1374 01:02:23,109 --> 01:02:21,359 in the past this is actually 1375 01:02:24,069 --> 01:02:23,119 a pretty good idea it was like well put 1376 01:02:26,230 --> 01:02:24,079 together 1377 01:02:28,309 --> 01:02:26,240 so we will sing you know we'll see if 1378 01:02:29,910 --> 01:02:28,319 there's genuine follow-up or if there 1379 01:02:32,069 --> 01:02:29,920 will be sabotage 1380 01:02:34,150 --> 01:02:32,079 which i would actually expect to happen 1381 01:02:34,950 --> 01:02:34,160 to this in other words i think that 1382 01:02:37,270 --> 01:02:34,960 they're 1383 01:02:39,270 --> 01:02:37,280 you would have to expect 1384 01:02:41,190 --> 01:02:39,280 high-level officials because we know 1385 01:02:42,470 --> 01:02:41,200 that not everyone is on board with 1386 01:02:45,430 --> 01:02:42,480 disclosure 1387 01:02:47,510 --> 01:02:45,440 they just are not and so how difficult 1388 01:02:49,589 --> 01:02:47,520 is it to see that the pentagon or some 1389 01:02:52,630 --> 01:02:49,599 group would put in to run this new 1390 01:02:55,029 --> 01:02:52,640 organization they put in their guy 1391 01:02:57,910 --> 01:02:55,039 which job is to basically subvert it and 1392 01:03:00,069 --> 01:02:57,920 sabotage it exactly and uh i talked 1393 01:03:02,069 --> 01:03:00,079 about that a little bit last night we'll 1394 01:03:03,589 --> 01:03:02,079 follow up yeah yeah we'll follow up with 1395 01:03:04,870 --> 01:03:03,599 that when we come back after this short 1396 01:03:07,910 --> 01:03:04,880 break 1397 01:03:09,430 --> 01:03:07,920 our last guest of 2021 it's richard 1398 01:03:11,910 --> 01:03:09,440 bleep and dolan i'm your host jimmy 1399 01:03:13,990 --> 01:03:11,920 church on the game changer and on x 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01:08:30,829 --> 01:08:28,560 welcome back fade to block i'm your host 1503 01:08:33,749 --> 01:08:30,839 jimmy church tonight's our last guest of 1504 01:08:36,390 --> 01:08:33,759 2021 as it should be 1505 01:08:38,070 --> 01:08:36,400 richard bleep and dolan 1506 01:08:41,269 --> 01:08:38,080 i'm your host jimmy church this is fade 1507 01:08:42,630 --> 01:08:41,279 to black and uh 1508 01:08:45,910 --> 01:08:42,640 check this out 1509 01:08:49,669 --> 01:08:45,920 i went through uh richard i went through 1510 01:08:51,749 --> 01:08:49,679 last week i did two straight days 1511 01:08:56,309 --> 01:08:51,759 of chet baker 1512 01:08:58,789 --> 01:08:56,319 oh wow man great musician 1513 01:09:02,229 --> 01:08:58,799 oh man i watched his documentary and 1514 01:09:04,070 --> 01:09:02,239 then i i went back and and just one 1515 01:09:07,990 --> 01:09:04,080 album after another 1516 01:09:11,510 --> 01:09:08,000 and and and live performances and 1517 01:09:13,510 --> 01:09:11,520 dude brings me to tears he's a beautiful 1518 01:09:14,870 --> 01:09:13,520 beautiful trumpet player one of the best 1519 01:09:16,550 --> 01:09:14,880 one of the best when he when he was a 1520 01:09:19,430 --> 01:09:16,560 young guy i mean he was this handsome 1521 01:09:21,269 --> 01:09:19,440 dude he was a magnificent player he had 1522 01:09:22,309 --> 01:09:21,279 this miles davis kind of sound out of 1523 01:09:24,470 --> 01:09:22,319 his horn 1524 01:09:26,070 --> 01:09:24,480 and he was a good singer it was a great 1525 01:09:28,550 --> 01:09:26,080 sa he might have been a better singer 1526 01:09:31,510 --> 01:09:28,560 than he was a trumpet player and he was 1527 01:09:33,349 --> 01:09:31,520 a pretty good actor too as well and and 1528 01:09:35,510 --> 01:09:33,359 he got into film anyway 1529 01:09:37,269 --> 01:09:35,520 heroin took him down yeah man 1530 01:09:38,550 --> 01:09:37,279 that's the sad thing about him but he 1531 01:09:40,870 --> 01:09:38,560 was such a 1532 01:09:43,669 --> 01:09:40,880 fantastic beautiful player 1533 01:09:45,430 --> 01:09:43,679 uh did a lot of work with um god who do 1534 01:09:46,870 --> 01:09:45,440 you play with was it stan getz i think 1535 01:09:49,110 --> 01:09:46,880 yeah i played with stan gibbs jerry 1536 01:09:50,870 --> 01:09:49,120 mulligan yep you can't remember yeah no 1537 01:09:53,669 --> 01:09:50,880 that's right and uh 1538 01:09:56,149 --> 01:09:53,679 his stuff with stan getz and i i was 1539 01:10:00,229 --> 01:09:56,159 watching some of the trio work 1540 01:10:03,550 --> 01:10:00,239 oh man you know absolutely uh just uh 1541 01:10:05,110 --> 01:10:03,560 that that period of jazz that 1542 01:10:07,910 --> 01:10:05,120 1950s 1543 01:10:09,590 --> 01:10:07,920 uh exploratory 1544 01:10:11,270 --> 01:10:09,600 some of the best ever 1545 01:10:14,630 --> 01:10:11,280 it's just incredible and it's the 1546 01:10:16,630 --> 01:10:14,640 coolest stuff around the coolest people 1547 01:10:18,229 --> 01:10:16,640 don't real like if if they realize then 1548 01:10:20,070 --> 01:10:18,239 they know but a lot of people don't know 1549 01:10:21,430 --> 01:10:20,080 just how great 1550 01:10:25,669 --> 01:10:21,440 that 1551 01:10:27,830 --> 01:10:25,679 way of of a certain part of american 1552 01:10:30,870 --> 01:10:27,840 civilization right there like the 1553 01:10:33,510 --> 01:10:30,880 explosion of this genius is creativity 1554 01:10:35,750 --> 01:10:33,520 uh it's just an amazing thing yeah baco 1555 01:10:38,950 --> 01:10:35,760 is a big part of it a huge part of it 1556 01:10:41,669 --> 01:10:38,960 and and we can if you go back 1557 01:10:44,390 --> 01:10:41,679 and and we all know about miles but if 1558 01:10:47,669 --> 01:10:44,400 you go and you listen to the transition 1559 01:10:50,950 --> 01:10:47,679 in that period from 1950 to 1960 1560 01:10:52,709 --> 01:10:50,960 that uh that miles and 1561 01:10:54,790 --> 01:10:52,719 uh coal train 1562 01:10:57,030 --> 01:10:54,800 bill evans don't forget him bill evans 1563 01:10:59,189 --> 01:10:57,040 trio 1564 01:11:02,630 --> 01:10:59,199 oh man and so 1565 01:11:04,950 --> 01:11:02,640 many greats of that era ornette coleman 1566 01:11:07,990 --> 01:11:04,960 you know you could just go the list uh 1567 01:11:10,830 --> 01:11:08,000 just got thelonious monk and you just go 1568 01:11:12,950 --> 01:11:10,840 on and on but anyway it 1569 01:11:15,669 --> 01:11:12,960 was cool 1570 01:11:18,070 --> 01:11:15,679 there was a cool if there if there's you 1571 01:11:19,510 --> 01:11:18,080 know a definition of cool 1572 01:11:22,550 --> 01:11:19,520 it's it's 1573 01:11:24,229 --> 01:11:22,560 jazz in the 1950s yeah these guys are 1574 01:11:26,950 --> 01:11:24,239 all explorers that's really what they 1575 01:11:29,430 --> 01:11:26,960 were they were like looking for 1576 01:11:30,950 --> 01:11:29,440 uh this ultimate artistic expression and 1577 01:11:33,590 --> 01:11:30,960 they ended up it was almost like when 1578 01:11:35,189 --> 01:11:33,600 picasso went abstract like at the turn 1579 01:11:38,149 --> 01:11:35,199 of the 20th century that's what these 1580 01:11:40,950 --> 01:11:38,159 jazz musicians were doing 1581 01:11:42,709 --> 01:11:40,960 with the music in the by the 1950s 1582 01:11:44,950 --> 01:11:42,719 especially when you get to the 60s with 1583 01:11:46,950 --> 01:11:44,960 coltrane and coleman uh they were just 1584 01:11:50,149 --> 01:11:46,960 going out into space and 1585 01:11:52,870 --> 01:11:50,159 honestly for me personally 1586 01:11:55,189 --> 01:11:52,880 uh after coltrane does like a love 1587 01:11:58,470 --> 01:11:55,199 supreme that's 1964. 1588 01:11:59,750 --> 01:11:58,480 to me after that he loses me as much as 1589 01:12:01,430 --> 01:11:59,760 i adore 1590 01:12:03,110 --> 01:12:01,440 uh do you know that there's a church of 1591 01:12:05,110 --> 01:12:03,120 john coltrane i think it's not in 1592 01:12:06,070 --> 01:12:05,120 california yes there is a church of john 1593 01:12:09,990 --> 01:12:06,080 where else would it be it's in 1594 01:12:10,870 --> 01:12:10,000 california but but after 1964 he's he's 1595 01:12:12,870 --> 01:12:10,880 so 1596 01:12:14,870 --> 01:12:12,880 i just never i'm not i'm not a 1597 01:12:17,110 --> 01:12:14,880 professional musician and it's hard for 1598 01:12:19,110 --> 01:12:17,120 me to figure out like where that guy was 1599 01:12:21,350 --> 01:12:19,120 going in the last few years of his life 1600 01:12:23,750 --> 01:12:21,360 but right up until then i'm with him and 1601 01:12:27,590 --> 01:12:23,760 i just love his journey it's an amazing 1602 01:12:29,430 --> 01:12:27,600 musical journey you know i i i love uh 1603 01:12:31,990 --> 01:12:29,440 the mid-century 1604 01:12:33,990 --> 01:12:32,000 uh furniture architecture 1605 01:12:35,990 --> 01:12:34,000 you know that whole palm springs thing 1606 01:12:38,229 --> 01:12:36,000 and it was going on around the country 1607 01:12:41,030 --> 01:12:38,239 but any time i see that furniture or i 1608 01:12:43,910 --> 01:12:41,040 see that artwork or the paintings 1609 01:12:46,709 --> 01:12:43,920 and or the architecture i just think of 1610 01:12:50,070 --> 01:12:46,719 that music i do it takes me straight 1611 01:12:52,070 --> 01:12:50,080 there and it was it was 1612 01:12:53,110 --> 01:12:52,080 it's like that whole part of american 1613 01:12:56,229 --> 01:12:53,120 history 1614 01:12:57,990 --> 01:12:56,239 the the thing that we easily we feel it 1615 01:13:00,149 --> 01:12:58,000 but we forget is that 1616 01:13:01,030 --> 01:13:00,159 that was a country that believed in 1617 01:13:02,550 --> 01:13:01,040 itself 1618 01:13:05,270 --> 01:13:02,560 and they knew that there were problems 1619 01:13:08,070 --> 01:13:05,280 like you know in jazz you've got like i 1620 01:13:09,430 --> 01:13:08,080 mean a lot of african-american musicians 1621 01:13:12,149 --> 01:13:09,440 were uh 1622 01:13:13,830 --> 01:13:12,159 this was like an area that they 1623 01:13:15,030 --> 01:13:13,840 could excel 1624 01:13:17,270 --> 01:13:15,040 i mean there were a lot of great white 1625 01:13:19,189 --> 01:13:17,280 musicians in that era as well but there 1626 01:13:21,189 --> 01:13:19,199 were a lot of genius level black 1627 01:13:22,790 --> 01:13:21,199 musicians in jazz in that period 1628 01:13:23,669 --> 01:13:22,800 particularly 1629 01:13:25,590 --> 01:13:23,679 and 1630 01:13:27,510 --> 01:13:25,600 i think like they knew like there was 1631 01:13:30,310 --> 01:13:27,520 there was like racial struggles that had 1632 01:13:31,990 --> 01:13:30,320 to be dealt with but in their field 1633 01:13:34,709 --> 01:13:32,000 they knew like they had this and they 1634 01:13:36,709 --> 01:13:34,719 were creating this incredible incredible 1635 01:13:39,270 --> 01:13:36,719 sound and there was this i think there 1636 01:13:41,030 --> 01:13:39,280 was this confidence throughout all of 1637 01:13:41,910 --> 01:13:41,040 american society 1638 01:13:44,229 --> 01:13:41,920 um 1639 01:13:45,669 --> 01:13:44,239 that was just it permeated and and 1640 01:13:47,590 --> 01:13:45,679 that's the thing 1641 01:13:49,430 --> 01:13:47,600 i feel like when when someone explores 1642 01:13:51,270 --> 01:13:49,440 that era we're drawn to it because i 1643 01:13:52,390 --> 01:13:51,280 don't think that we have that confidence 1644 01:13:54,709 --> 01:13:52,400 any longer i don't really think it's 1645 01:13:57,430 --> 01:13:54,719 there but it was absolutely there in the 1646 01:13:59,590 --> 01:13:57,440 40s and the 50s and into the 60s and 1647 01:14:03,270 --> 01:13:59,600 then and i think it started to fall 1648 01:14:06,709 --> 01:14:03,280 apart do you think it was the whole um 1649 01:14:10,390 --> 01:14:06,719 uh i mean part of it but the culture was 1650 01:14:13,430 --> 01:14:10,400 uh you know jet airplanes and and and 1651 01:14:16,070 --> 01:14:13,440 cars and the kitchen of the future yeah 1652 01:14:17,750 --> 01:14:16,080 and you know what i mean this this 1653 01:14:19,590 --> 01:14:17,760 futurism yeah 1654 01:14:21,830 --> 01:14:19,600 they believed that they were going to 1655 01:14:23,910 --> 01:14:21,840 create a perfect society and and this is 1656 01:14:26,470 --> 01:14:23,920 kind of crazy you know you've got this 1657 01:14:28,790 --> 01:14:26,480 idea of i mean america you can forgive 1658 01:14:30,310 --> 01:14:28,800 america for feeling like this they sat 1659 01:14:32,550 --> 01:14:30,320 on top of the world after the second 1660 01:14:34,470 --> 01:14:32,560 world war ended america had five percent 1661 01:14:37,110 --> 01:14:34,480 of the world's population had 50 percent 1662 01:14:38,470 --> 01:14:37,120 of the world's wealth in 1945. 1663 01:14:40,709 --> 01:14:38,480 it was i mean 1664 01:14:42,310 --> 01:14:40,719 you know how do you not have optimism 1665 01:14:44,310 --> 01:14:42,320 when you're in that but also the 1666 01:14:45,830 --> 01:14:44,320 technology was really going to like save 1667 01:14:48,390 --> 01:14:45,840 the world we're going to have the green 1668 01:14:49,990 --> 01:14:48,400 revolution we're going to have all uh 1669 01:14:52,070 --> 01:14:50,000 i really got into this for a while it's 1670 01:14:55,270 --> 01:14:52,080 called retro futurism it's it's looking 1671 01:14:57,350 --> 01:14:55,280 at futurism of the past and and the 1672 01:15:00,790 --> 01:14:57,360 1950s and 60s 1673 01:15:03,270 --> 01:15:00,800 american futurism was oh my god just out 1674 01:15:05,350 --> 01:15:03,280 of control but they they were basically 1675 01:15:06,790 --> 01:15:05,360 scientific utopians 1676 01:15:08,310 --> 01:15:06,800 and um 1677 01:15:09,910 --> 01:15:08,320 and there's there's an attraction to 1678 01:15:12,630 --> 01:15:09,920 that but there's it was actually a lot 1679 01:15:13,669 --> 01:15:12,640 of danger to that and i think we are 1680 01:15:15,350 --> 01:15:13,679 still 1681 01:15:17,510 --> 01:15:15,360 i think we're we're living in a world 1682 01:15:18,790 --> 01:15:17,520 that's being run today 1683 01:15:21,430 --> 01:15:18,800 by 1684 01:15:23,750 --> 01:15:21,440 uh utopians as well and uh they they 1685 01:15:24,950 --> 01:15:23,760 have their own kind of current version 1686 01:15:26,950 --> 01:15:24,960 of that 1687 01:15:28,870 --> 01:15:26,960 perfect future that they that they are 1688 01:15:30,390 --> 01:15:28,880 convinced they're going to create for 1689 01:15:33,030 --> 01:15:30,400 the world and it's their own version of 1690 01:15:36,870 --> 01:15:33,040 utopia it's not my utopia but it's their 1691 01:15:41,910 --> 01:15:36,880 utopia if 50 years from now do you think 1692 01:15:45,990 --> 01:15:41,920 they will look back uh to like 2020 2010 1693 01:15:50,790 --> 01:15:48,310 yes yeah but but dark it's going to be 1694 01:15:52,390 --> 01:15:50,800 in the dark look there's no one is going 1695 01:15:54,470 --> 01:15:52,400 to look back to our era and is going to 1696 01:15:55,910 --> 01:15:54,480 say oh wow what a great time that what 1697 01:15:58,149 --> 01:15:55,920 they're going to see 1698 01:16:01,189 --> 01:15:58,159 is 1699 01:16:02,149 --> 01:16:01,199 you know a lot of the worst a lot of the 1700 01:16:03,590 --> 01:16:02,159 worst 1701 01:16:05,189 --> 01:16:03,600 you know we we've seen a lot of the 1702 01:16:07,430 --> 01:16:05,199 worst in human nature in these last two 1703 01:16:09,510 --> 01:16:07,440 years let's let's just get real here 1704 01:16:12,149 --> 01:16:09,520 sure we've seen we've seen 1705 01:16:15,030 --> 01:16:12,159 a lot of the world just cheerleading its 1706 01:16:17,350 --> 01:16:15,040 way i mean you know paid shells for the 1707 01:16:18,950 --> 01:16:17,360 media basically working for 1708 01:16:21,990 --> 01:16:18,960 essentially a global elite but they are 1709 01:16:23,110 --> 01:16:22,000 cheerleading our their way toward a kind 1710 01:16:25,590 --> 01:16:23,120 of global 1711 01:16:27,910 --> 01:16:25,600 authoritarian totalitarian system 1712 01:16:29,030 --> 01:16:27,920 are they doing this gleeful about it are 1713 01:16:31,030 --> 01:16:29,040 they doing they believe that they're 1714 01:16:32,709 --> 01:16:31,040 going to do this for the best of of 1715 01:16:35,510 --> 01:16:32,719 humanity so 1716 01:16:39,110 --> 01:16:35,520 why why do you think and i wanted to get 1717 01:16:41,270 --> 01:16:39,120 to one of the other big stories of 2021 1718 01:16:43,910 --> 01:16:41,280 that we didn't mention uh there's so 1719 01:16:47,430 --> 01:16:43,920 many but that is danny sheen and lou 1720 01:16:49,990 --> 01:16:47,440 elizondo and in that investigation and 1721 01:16:51,830 --> 01:16:50,000 and what happened with the uh their 1722 01:16:54,149 --> 01:16:51,840 meetings with the odni 1723 01:16:56,070 --> 01:16:54,159 oh yeah is that huge that's important 1724 01:16:57,510 --> 01:16:56,080 that's important yeah huge huge 1725 01:16:59,430 --> 01:16:57,520 you probably know this better than i do 1726 01:17:02,310 --> 01:16:59,440 but i i talked with danny and i did talk 1727 01:17:04,070 --> 01:17:02,320 with lou about about these developments 1728 01:17:04,790 --> 01:17:04,080 so i mean i have some knowledge of it 1729 01:17:06,709 --> 01:17:04,800 but 1730 01:17:09,189 --> 01:17:06,719 probably not as good as yours 1731 01:17:12,709 --> 01:17:09,199 but yes uh first of all the fact that 1732 01:17:14,070 --> 01:17:12,719 danny had to become lou's lawyer 1733 01:17:15,910 --> 01:17:14,080 that's important you know all these 1734 01:17:18,310 --> 01:17:15,920 people for years who kept saying lou 1735 01:17:21,110 --> 01:17:18,320 elizondo's a cia shill or he's an 1736 01:17:23,669 --> 01:17:21,120 intelligence asset trying to spread 1737 01:17:25,270 --> 01:17:23,679 disinformation i i just you know it 1738 01:17:27,030 --> 01:17:25,280 really bugged me 1739 01:17:29,430 --> 01:17:27,040 and i'm not here to like 1740 01:17:31,910 --> 01:17:29,440 defend lou elizondo i just i believe in 1741 01:17:33,669 --> 01:17:31,920 being fair for goodness sake and what 1742 01:17:35,669 --> 01:17:33,679 was evident to me it's always been 1743 01:17:37,830 --> 01:17:35,679 evident to me that the pentagon just 1744 01:17:39,990 --> 01:17:37,840 wanted to destroy this guy 1745 01:17:42,830 --> 01:17:40,000 and they took many opportunities to try 1746 01:17:45,350 --> 01:17:42,840 to do so they they did not fail and he 1747 01:17:46,870 --> 01:17:45,360 required finally the service of a lawyer 1748 01:17:48,310 --> 01:17:46,880 to step in on his behalf and danny 1749 01:17:49,350 --> 01:17:48,320 sheehan's one of the best you could ask 1750 01:17:52,149 --> 01:17:49,360 for 1751 01:17:54,550 --> 01:17:52,159 uh danny defended good grief back in the 1752 01:17:56,470 --> 01:17:54,560 70s karen silkwood 1753 01:17:58,149 --> 01:17:56,480 right and he 1754 01:17:59,750 --> 01:17:58,159 if you've ever talked to danny about the 1755 01:18:02,390 --> 01:17:59,760 iran country he's one of the world's 1756 01:18:05,270 --> 01:18:02,400 best experts on iran contra it's amazing 1757 01:18:06,709 --> 01:18:05,280 danny's really been around and he's been 1758 01:18:09,830 --> 01:18:06,719 a lawyer 1759 01:18:12,470 --> 01:18:09,840 really working for the underdog and for 1760 01:18:14,630 --> 01:18:12,480 civil rights and and human rights 1761 01:18:17,189 --> 01:18:14,640 uh for years and years and so he's the 1762 01:18:18,790 --> 01:18:17,199 right guy and he defended john mack you 1763 01:18:20,950 --> 01:18:18,800 know 30 years ago and mack was being 1764 01:18:24,550 --> 01:18:20,960 attacked by harvard university 1765 01:18:26,950 --> 01:18:24,560 so danny um worked with lou 1766 01:18:28,870 --> 01:18:26,960 to get the uap task force actually to do 1767 01:18:30,550 --> 01:18:28,880 its job 1768 01:18:32,470 --> 01:18:30,560 a lot of people don't realize like the 1769 01:18:34,709 --> 01:18:32,480 uap task force 1770 01:18:37,510 --> 01:18:34,719 uh was 1771 01:18:40,390 --> 01:18:37,520 woefully understaffed you know they 1772 01:18:42,149 --> 01:18:40,400 what were they really even able to do 1773 01:18:43,669 --> 01:18:42,159 did they even have the clearances to 1774 01:18:45,110 --> 01:18:43,679 actually analyze the information they 1775 01:18:46,630 --> 01:18:45,120 were supposed to analyze 1776 01:18:48,950 --> 01:18:46,640 probably not 1777 01:18:50,149 --> 01:18:48,960 and lou had this very strong feeling 1778 01:18:52,950 --> 01:18:50,159 like these guys were not going to be 1779 01:18:54,470 --> 01:18:52,960 able to do their job and so he got danny 1780 01:18:57,030 --> 01:18:54,480 on board to 1781 01:18:59,510 --> 01:18:57,040 actually force them 1782 01:19:00,950 --> 01:18:59,520 to uh at least be somewhat responsive to 1783 01:19:02,630 --> 01:19:00,960 their mandate 1784 01:19:04,630 --> 01:19:02,640 so that's those are the main things that 1785 01:19:07,030 --> 01:19:04,640 i know about it i i suspect you could 1786 01:19:09,510 --> 01:19:07,040 probably fill in these details 1787 01:19:13,350 --> 01:19:09,520 there was uh yes there was all of that 1788 01:19:14,229 --> 01:19:13,360 and the other part the 1789 01:19:17,189 --> 01:19:14,239 uh 1790 01:19:18,229 --> 01:19:17,199 which which danny forced the odni's hand 1791 01:19:20,149 --> 01:19:18,239 on this 1792 01:19:23,510 --> 01:19:20,159 was just bringing 1793 01:19:25,030 --> 01:19:23,520 these three letters uap to the attention 1794 01:19:28,550 --> 01:19:25,040 of the odni 1795 01:19:30,070 --> 01:19:28,560 where the od and i said uh the office of 1796 01:19:32,709 --> 01:19:30,080 uh uh 1797 01:19:35,110 --> 01:19:32,719 uh national intelligence yeah um for 1798 01:19:37,430 --> 01:19:35,120 everybody that doesn't know what odni is 1799 01:19:40,470 --> 01:19:37,440 um and the dni director of national 1800 01:19:41,990 --> 01:19:40,480 intelligence odni being the office of 1801 01:19:44,070 --> 01:19:42,000 the director of national intelligence 1802 01:19:47,910 --> 01:19:44,080 umbrella for the intelligence for the 1803 01:19:49,430 --> 01:19:47,920 community right and so what danny forced 1804 01:19:52,470 --> 01:19:49,440 the od and i 1805 01:19:54,709 --> 01:19:52,480 to recognize was uap 1806 01:19:56,310 --> 01:19:54,719 and then the od and i stepped back and 1807 01:19:58,790 --> 01:19:56,320 said wait a minute uh what are you 1808 01:20:01,350 --> 01:19:58,800 talking about and then force this 1809 01:20:03,830 --> 01:20:01,360 investigation because it said oh he 1810 01:20:06,229 --> 01:20:03,840 doesn't have any any emails anymore 1811 01:20:08,149 --> 01:20:06,239 there's no way for him to 1812 01:20:10,470 --> 01:20:08,159 to defend himself they're saying that he 1813 01:20:12,950 --> 01:20:10,480 didn't do this when actually he did 1814 01:20:15,110 --> 01:20:12,960 and and then the od and i turned around 1815 01:20:18,310 --> 01:20:15,120 and said wait a minute i'm going to ask 1816 01:20:19,270 --> 01:20:18,320 all of the agencies all of a certain 1817 01:20:21,669 --> 01:20:19,280 level 1818 01:20:23,669 --> 01:20:21,679 of all of these agencies to come back 1819 01:20:25,189 --> 01:20:23,679 and tell me how they've been dealing 1820 01:20:26,870 --> 01:20:25,199 with uaps 1821 01:20:28,709 --> 01:20:26,880 what have you been saying who have you 1822 01:20:30,950 --> 01:20:28,719 been saying to the public what are you 1823 01:20:33,510 --> 01:20:30,960 aps 1824 01:20:36,629 --> 01:20:33,520 what information do you have and that 1825 01:20:37,910 --> 01:20:36,639 was just absolutely extraordinary and i 1826 01:20:38,790 --> 01:20:37,920 don't know 1827 01:20:41,990 --> 01:20:38,800 uh 1828 01:20:43,750 --> 01:20:42,000 the results of this investigation that 1829 01:20:46,790 --> 01:20:43,760 the od and i 1830 01:20:49,750 --> 01:20:46,800 sent out a very strongly worded memo 1831 01:20:51,990 --> 01:20:49,760 um absolutely at every level of the 1832 01:20:54,070 --> 01:20:52,000 department of defense and the agencies 1833 01:20:56,470 --> 01:20:54,080 and how they were dealing with the uap 1834 01:20:58,629 --> 01:20:56,480 issue if at all and that was that was 1835 01:21:03,030 --> 01:20:58,639 strong and that was all because 1836 01:21:05,270 --> 01:21:03,040 of danny sheehan uh pushing this forward 1837 01:21:07,990 --> 01:21:05,280 yes that thank you for filling that in 1838 01:21:10,229 --> 01:21:08,000 for everyone including for me 1839 01:21:11,910 --> 01:21:10,239 the the problem that you're gonna see 1840 01:21:12,830 --> 01:21:11,920 though like i think what's happened is 1841 01:21:16,310 --> 01:21:12,840 the the 1842 01:21:17,910 --> 01:21:16,320 ufo phenomenon 1843 01:21:20,229 --> 01:21:17,920 uh first of all we have a big government 1844 01:21:22,629 --> 01:21:20,239 so we have a very very big 1845 01:21:23,750 --> 01:21:22,639 government and a big military 1846 01:21:30,070 --> 01:21:23,760 and 1847 01:21:32,870 --> 01:21:30,080 that a lot of the management of the ufo 1848 01:21:35,110 --> 01:21:32,880 problem we can call it that 1849 01:21:36,790 --> 01:21:35,120 uh not all of it is in the formal 1850 01:21:38,149 --> 01:21:36,800 channels of the united states government 1851 01:21:39,189 --> 01:21:38,159 i just don't think that's the case 1852 01:21:40,470 --> 01:21:39,199 anymore 1853 01:21:43,510 --> 01:21:40,480 um i mean 1854 01:21:45,030 --> 01:21:43,520 maybe uh officially the answer is yes 1855 01:21:46,950 --> 01:21:45,040 but 1856 01:21:49,430 --> 01:21:46,960 you know i'll go back to the uh the 1857 01:21:51,189 --> 01:21:49,440 davis wilson notes which i maintain are 1858 01:21:53,270 --> 01:21:51,199 incredibly important for us to 1859 01:21:54,229 --> 01:21:53,280 understand just how this phenomenon goes 1860 01:21:56,790 --> 01:21:54,239 down but 1861 01:21:58,229 --> 01:21:56,800 when you read those leaked notes which 1862 01:21:59,510 --> 01:21:58,239 many of us have been talking about for a 1863 01:22:01,350 --> 01:21:59,520 few years now 1864 01:22:04,070 --> 01:22:01,360 i think it's quite evident that the 1865 01:22:05,430 --> 01:22:04,080 center of gravity is in many ways has 1866 01:22:07,270 --> 01:22:05,440 moved away 1867 01:22:08,709 --> 01:22:07,280 from formal channels of the united 1868 01:22:11,430 --> 01:22:08,719 states government 1869 01:22:13,750 --> 01:22:11,440 and are protected through 1870 01:22:15,590 --> 01:22:13,760 uh you know programs within the special 1871 01:22:17,669 --> 01:22:15,600 access program system 1872 01:22:19,669 --> 01:22:17,679 uh sometimes under fake names or fake 1873 01:22:22,070 --> 01:22:19,679 descriptions things like that 1874 01:22:24,390 --> 01:22:22,080 and they have total the contracting 1875 01:22:26,310 --> 01:22:24,400 organizations that study these uap and 1876 01:22:29,189 --> 01:22:26,320 study 1877 01:22:30,629 --> 01:22:29,199 uh objects technology which they are 1878 01:22:32,070 --> 01:22:30,639 doing 1879 01:22:34,870 --> 01:22:32,080 they seem to have complete total 1880 01:22:36,470 --> 01:22:34,880 protection from any kind of inquiry so 1881 01:22:39,030 --> 01:22:36,480 so when you get an order coming out of 1882 01:22:41,510 --> 01:22:39,040 the odni saying yes we want to look at 1883 01:22:42,709 --> 01:22:41,520 ufo reports or uap reports up to a 1884 01:22:44,070 --> 01:22:42,719 certain level 1885 01:22:45,750 --> 01:22:44,080 that's good 1886 01:22:48,310 --> 01:22:45,760 and it could very well be that that 1887 01:22:50,310 --> 01:22:48,320 individual who issued that report 1888 01:22:52,629 --> 01:22:50,320 might genuinely think hey wait a minute 1889 01:22:54,390 --> 01:22:52,639 maybe we should look at this 1890 01:22:56,390 --> 01:22:54,400 the the real question to ask is who's 1891 01:22:59,030 --> 01:22:56,400 been read in and who's not been read 1892 01:23:01,350 --> 01:22:59,040 into this the real deep 1893 01:23:02,870 --> 01:23:01,360 elements of this i had a conversation 1894 01:23:04,950 --> 01:23:02,880 years ago with a 1895 01:23:07,189 --> 01:23:04,960 formerly high fairly high ranking 1896 01:23:09,030 --> 01:23:07,199 government official who is very deeply 1897 01:23:09,830 --> 01:23:09,040 engaged in this subject 1898 01:23:11,350 --> 01:23:09,840 and 1899 01:23:13,590 --> 01:23:11,360 this man said to me that in his 1900 01:23:15,990 --> 01:23:13,600 retirement he had conversations with i 1901 01:23:17,830 --> 01:23:16,000 think he said 18 1902 01:23:18,790 --> 01:23:17,840 former high-level officials who were 1903 01:23:20,950 --> 01:23:18,800 either 1904 01:23:21,910 --> 01:23:20,960 former presidents of the united states 1905 01:23:24,870 --> 01:23:21,920 former 1906 01:23:26,870 --> 01:23:24,880 uh secretaries of defense or deputy 1907 01:23:30,310 --> 01:23:26,880 secretaries of defense so 1908 01:23:31,510 --> 01:23:30,320 18 people who were at those levels 1909 01:23:34,470 --> 01:23:31,520 and several of them were former 1910 01:23:36,070 --> 01:23:34,480 presidents and he said of those 18 and 1911 01:23:38,709 --> 01:23:36,080 about ufos 1912 01:23:40,709 --> 01:23:38,719 so he talked with those individuals 1913 01:23:43,030 --> 01:23:40,719 in their retirement 1914 01:23:44,310 --> 01:23:43,040 about ufos right 1915 01:23:47,590 --> 01:23:44,320 and 1916 01:23:48,950 --> 01:23:47,600 those cases but he said he brought them 1917 01:23:51,590 --> 01:23:48,960 up and 1918 01:23:53,830 --> 01:23:51,600 and he said yeah the responses fell into 1919 01:23:57,189 --> 01:23:53,840 three basic categories 1920 01:23:59,189 --> 01:23:57,199 the largest by far category was 1921 01:24:00,830 --> 01:23:59,199 oh yes i'm very interested in that i 1922 01:24:03,750 --> 01:24:00,840 don't really know very much do you know 1923 01:24:04,709 --> 01:24:03,760 anything that was the largest group he 1924 01:24:05,510 --> 01:24:04,719 said 1925 01:24:07,030 --> 01:24:05,520 uh 1926 01:24:10,390 --> 01:24:07,040 and that was like maybe 1927 01:24:12,950 --> 01:24:10,400 11 12 of the 18 or maybe 12 or 13 i 1928 01:24:15,189 --> 01:24:12,960 don't know some significant amount 1929 01:24:16,550 --> 01:24:15,199 so they they did not know and there was 1930 01:24:19,030 --> 01:24:16,560 a small group 1931 01:24:20,950 --> 01:24:19,040 i think he said three or four 1932 01:24:23,590 --> 01:24:20,960 that said uh ufos don't waste your time 1933 01:24:26,229 --> 01:24:23,600 with that garbage that's stupid nonsense 1934 01:24:28,470 --> 01:24:26,239 and then he said two or three and he 1935 01:24:31,270 --> 01:24:28,480 literally said two or three 1936 01:24:33,510 --> 01:24:31,280 said oh yes i've been read into that 1937 01:24:37,590 --> 01:24:33,520 i can't really tell you much 1938 01:24:39,430 --> 01:24:37,600 so so of that elite level 1939 01:24:40,629 --> 01:24:39,440 of individual this is what this man said 1940 01:24:42,709 --> 01:24:40,639 to me 1941 01:24:44,390 --> 01:24:42,719 so what does that say well that says at 1942 01:24:46,310 --> 01:24:44,400 the highest levels of 1943 01:24:48,229 --> 01:24:46,320 our formal government apparatus 1944 01:24:49,990 --> 01:24:48,239 including the department of defense 1945 01:24:52,070 --> 01:24:50,000 most of those people don't really seem 1946 01:24:54,070 --> 01:24:52,080 to know very much 1947 01:24:55,270 --> 01:24:54,080 does it surprise you 1948 01:24:56,310 --> 01:24:55,280 that 1949 01:24:59,750 --> 01:24:56,320 the 1950 01:25:02,229 --> 01:24:59,760 since 2000 december of 2017 1951 01:25:03,750 --> 01:25:02,239 that the interest and the coverage at 1952 01:25:05,189 --> 01:25:03,760 every level it doesn't matter if it's 1953 01:25:06,709 --> 01:25:05,199 the media the government science 1954 01:25:07,669 --> 01:25:06,719 envelope whatever 1955 01:25:11,590 --> 01:25:07,679 has 1956 01:25:16,709 --> 01:25:11,600 where 1957 01:25:18,229 --> 01:25:16,719 week to week month to month throughout 1958 01:25:20,870 --> 01:25:18,239 the entire year 1959 01:25:22,790 --> 01:25:20,880 a constant barrage and interest in the 1960 01:25:24,550 --> 01:25:22,800 subject moving through 1961 01:25:27,669 --> 01:25:24,560 uh capitol hill 1962 01:25:29,669 --> 01:25:27,679 uh and through the media it it didn't 1963 01:25:32,070 --> 01:25:29,679 ease up uh 1964 01:25:34,229 --> 01:25:32,080 where you would have thought that 2017 1965 01:25:35,110 --> 01:25:34,239 was as big as it was going to get 1966 01:25:37,990 --> 01:25:35,120 and 1967 01:25:40,149 --> 01:25:38,000 in 2021 1968 01:25:41,990 --> 01:25:40,159 it has been just an amazing year for 1969 01:25:43,750 --> 01:25:42,000 this does that surprise you i have a 1970 01:25:46,149 --> 01:25:43,760 slightly different take on it now i mean 1971 01:25:48,550 --> 01:25:46,159 yes i recognize what you're saying so i 1972 01:25:51,510 --> 01:25:48,560 don't want to say no that didn't happen 1973 01:25:54,229 --> 01:25:51,520 but what's missing here you know 1974 01:25:57,510 --> 01:25:54,239 the fact is a tremendous amount is 1975 01:26:00,390 --> 01:25:57,520 almost willfully being ignored in all of 1976 01:26:02,870 --> 01:26:00,400 this by at least the larger media the 1977 01:26:04,950 --> 01:26:02,880 fact that there's even a conspiracy or 1978 01:26:06,709 --> 01:26:04,960 cover-up involved no one ever talks 1979 01:26:07,910 --> 01:26:06,719 about this right 1980 01:26:10,070 --> 01:26:07,920 you know i mean think about how 1981 01:26:12,149 --> 01:26:10,080 ridiculous that is not to talk about 1982 01:26:15,189 --> 01:26:12,159 this i mean for years and years and 1983 01:26:16,390 --> 01:26:15,199 years anyone who followed ufos even a 1984 01:26:17,830 --> 01:26:16,400 little bit 1985 01:26:19,510 --> 01:26:17,840 had to assume 1986 01:26:22,070 --> 01:26:19,520 when we started acknowledging that this 1987 01:26:23,669 --> 01:26:22,080 was real how could you ignore the fact 1988 01:26:25,750 --> 01:26:23,679 that there's been a cover-up all those 1989 01:26:27,110 --> 01:26:25,760 crazy conspiracy theories golly were 1990 01:26:29,510 --> 01:26:27,120 they right 1991 01:26:31,110 --> 01:26:29,520 and and none of this is even being 1992 01:26:34,229 --> 01:26:31,120 broached 1993 01:26:36,149 --> 01:26:34,239 like why not everyone's wondering 1994 01:26:37,669 --> 01:26:36,159 and yet they don't talk about it because 1995 01:26:39,510 --> 01:26:37,679 you're not supposed to talk about 1996 01:26:40,950 --> 01:26:39,520 conspiracy theories we can get back to 1997 01:26:44,709 --> 01:26:40,960 that because that's an important part of 1998 01:26:46,229 --> 01:26:44,719 our world today but then not even the 1999 01:26:49,030 --> 01:26:46,239 fact of conspiracy is not being 2000 01:26:50,790 --> 01:26:49,040 discussed but the nature of that can 2001 01:26:53,110 --> 01:26:50,800 that cover-up or conspiracy doesn't get 2002 01:26:55,270 --> 01:26:53,120 discussed by nature i simply mean 2003 01:26:56,790 --> 01:26:55,280 the fact that a lot of this certainly 2004 01:26:59,510 --> 01:26:56,800 appears to be 2005 01:27:01,510 --> 01:26:59,520 to some extent privatized not even so 2006 01:27:03,430 --> 01:27:01,520 that is beyond formal government 2007 01:27:05,830 --> 01:27:03,440 channels in other words our conversation 2008 01:27:08,149 --> 01:27:05,840 about our government i think is at the 2009 01:27:10,070 --> 01:27:08,159 lower than kindergarten level 2010 01:27:11,270 --> 01:27:10,080 in terms of what actually is a situation 2011 01:27:12,709 --> 01:27:11,280 like for example when you look at the 2012 01:27:15,990 --> 01:27:12,719 davis wilson 2013 01:27:18,550 --> 01:27:16,000 notes what's obvious wilson discovers 2014 01:27:20,470 --> 01:27:18,560 this deeply buried special access 2015 01:27:23,189 --> 01:27:20,480 program that deals with alien tech he 2016 01:27:25,110 --> 01:27:23,199 goes to find out about it he tells the 2017 01:27:27,110 --> 01:27:25,120 the contractors you need to let me in to 2018 01:27:29,030 --> 01:27:27,120 oversee this he is deputy head of 2019 01:27:30,790 --> 01:27:29,040 intelligence of the joint chiefs 2020 01:27:33,270 --> 01:27:30,800 okay so he thinks he has the right to do 2021 01:27:34,390 --> 01:27:33,280 it they they blow him off he says i'm 2022 01:27:36,390 --> 01:27:34,400 going to complain up the chain of 2023 01:27:38,950 --> 01:27:36,400 command they said go be our guest he 2024 01:27:41,030 --> 01:27:38,960 does and what happens instead of being 2025 01:27:43,270 --> 01:27:41,040 thanked by his supervisors for finding 2026 01:27:45,430 --> 01:27:43,280 this irregular program no he's 2027 01:27:47,830 --> 01:27:45,440 threatened with his career he gets hung 2028 01:27:49,669 --> 01:27:47,840 up on yeah that's how the real system 2029 01:27:51,270 --> 01:27:49,679 works so we don't we don't talk about 2030 01:27:53,270 --> 01:27:51,280 any of that no one's talking about 2031 01:27:55,669 --> 01:27:53,280 retrievals crash retrievals possession 2032 01:27:57,270 --> 01:27:55,679 of exotic materials or bodies i mean 2033 01:27:59,510 --> 01:27:57,280 we've come close 2034 01:28:01,110 --> 01:27:59,520 there's been little hints elizondo kind 2035 01:28:03,110 --> 01:28:01,120 of said it to tucker carlson a couple of 2036 01:28:05,030 --> 01:28:03,120 years ago leslie kane and ralph 2037 01:28:06,950 --> 01:28:05,040 blumenthal a year and a half ago in the 2038 01:28:09,030 --> 01:28:06,960 new york times almost mentioned that 2039 01:28:10,629 --> 01:28:09,040 they're talking about eric davis but but 2040 01:28:12,950 --> 01:28:10,639 no one really 2041 01:28:14,709 --> 01:28:12,960 is going over that line because that's a 2042 01:28:16,790 --> 01:28:14,719 that's a big line to go over but there 2043 01:28:18,629 --> 01:28:16,800 is there is a section we've got two 2044 01:28:21,189 --> 01:28:18,639 minutes before the break there is a 2045 01:28:23,510 --> 01:28:21,199 section in the ndaa 2046 01:28:26,310 --> 01:28:23,520 uh that does address that 2047 01:28:28,709 --> 01:28:26,320 and i was completely shocked that that 2048 01:28:31,510 --> 01:28:28,719 verbiage and that paragraph was included 2049 01:28:34,310 --> 01:28:31,520 in talking about uh crash retrievals 2050 01:28:36,149 --> 01:28:34,320 what what's the phrasing the phrasing is 2051 01:28:38,950 --> 01:28:36,159 that the reports 2052 01:28:39,910 --> 01:28:38,960 shall be written up within two weeks of 2053 01:28:47,270 --> 01:28:39,920 any 2054 01:28:50,149 --> 01:28:47,280 crash debris of of uaps yeah that's good 2055 01:28:51,590 --> 01:28:50,159 yeah that was strong i mean now see but 2056 01:28:53,350 --> 01:28:51,600 this is the thing goes back to your 2057 01:28:55,430 --> 01:28:53,360 point though richard and no talk of 2058 01:28:57,669 --> 01:28:55,440 abductions 2059 01:28:59,430 --> 01:28:57,679 but they do talk about health issues and 2060 01:29:01,430 --> 01:28:59,440 we'll come back to that after the break 2061 01:29:04,709 --> 01:29:01,440 but back to your point 2062 01:29:08,070 --> 01:29:04,719 for them to put that specific paragraph 2063 01:29:12,070 --> 01:29:08,080 in the ndaa says to me that they are 2064 01:29:14,629 --> 01:29:12,080 aware of this going on in the past 2065 01:29:16,310 --> 01:29:14,639 otherwise why put it in the report or in 2066 01:29:17,830 --> 01:29:16,320 the budget at all 2067 01:29:19,270 --> 01:29:17,840 i'm guessing we could probably thank 2068 01:29:21,430 --> 01:29:19,280 chris mellon for that 2069 01:29:23,030 --> 01:29:21,440 i'm gonna just take a wild guess 2070 01:29:25,350 --> 01:29:23,040 i don't know 2071 01:29:26,950 --> 01:29:25,360 but i've got to think 2072 01:29:28,470 --> 01:29:26,960 i've got to think his fingerprints are 2073 01:29:30,070 --> 01:29:28,480 there 2074 01:29:31,830 --> 01:29:30,080 this is just my guess and i'm i'm not 2075 01:29:33,750 --> 01:29:31,840 the first one to mention this in public 2076 01:29:36,470 --> 01:29:33,760 so i'm just going to say 2077 01:29:39,430 --> 01:29:36,480 but um i know that he 2078 01:29:40,950 --> 01:29:39,440 he wants a good investigation going on 2079 01:29:41,990 --> 01:29:40,960 within the government i know he believes 2080 01:29:43,669 --> 01:29:42,000 in that 2081 01:29:45,110 --> 01:29:43,679 and uh and i know he knows a lot of 2082 01:29:47,669 --> 01:29:45,120 those people and he might be in a 2083 01:29:49,350 --> 01:29:47,679 position to do it so if if he did 2084 01:29:52,149 --> 01:29:49,360 i would just say thanks 2085 01:29:53,990 --> 01:29:52,159 because it's actually a good thing now 2086 01:29:55,430 --> 01:29:54,000 who who is and you brought this up 2087 01:29:56,629 --> 01:29:55,440 earlier uh 2088 01:29:59,590 --> 01:29:56,639 i don't want 2089 01:30:02,310 --> 01:29:59,600 this to get away from we need a uap 2090 01:30:05,270 --> 01:30:02,320 police officer now there needs to be 2091 01:30:06,790 --> 01:30:05,280 somebody to handle the intelligence 2092 01:30:08,070 --> 01:30:06,800 community to make sure that they are 2093 01:30:10,390 --> 01:30:08,080 forth with 2094 01:30:12,950 --> 01:30:10,400 um in their reporting and the department 2095 01:30:15,189 --> 01:30:12,960 of defense and their reporting 2096 01:30:17,270 --> 01:30:15,199 to make sure that this stuff actually 2097 01:30:19,750 --> 01:30:17,280 does get communicated 2098 01:30:22,550 --> 01:30:19,760 and and compiled in this central 2099 01:30:24,550 --> 01:30:22,560 repository that gillibrand is asking for 2100 01:30:26,870 --> 01:30:24,560 yeah you know there's got to be somebody 2101 01:30:29,110 --> 01:30:26,880 appointed there to make sure 2102 01:30:30,550 --> 01:30:29,120 i don't know how that's going to happen 2103 01:30:32,629 --> 01:30:30,560 like i don't know anything about the 2104 01:30:34,070 --> 01:30:32,639 mechanisms frankly by which they're 2105 01:30:35,030 --> 01:30:34,080 going to select like who's going to 2106 01:30:39,590 --> 01:30:35,040 someone's going to have to run the 2107 01:30:42,709 --> 01:30:39,600 department a uap czar a uap czar yes 2108 01:30:43,750 --> 01:30:42,719 don't you think yes it has to be there 2109 01:30:46,709 --> 01:30:43,760 so i don't know how they're going to 2110 01:30:48,709 --> 01:30:46,719 select that and is it going to be a fox 2111 01:30:50,550 --> 01:30:48,719 in the end house kind of a thing or will 2112 01:30:52,149 --> 01:30:50,560 it be a legitimate 2113 01:30:53,270 --> 01:30:52,159 attempt 2114 01:30:54,870 --> 01:30:53,280 to 2115 01:30:56,709 --> 01:30:54,880 do the right thing 2116 01:30:58,070 --> 01:30:56,719 which is genuinely to try to collect 2117 01:31:00,790 --> 01:30:58,080 these reports and 2118 01:31:02,470 --> 01:31:00,800 honestly to report them 2119 01:31:04,709 --> 01:31:02,480 to the public i mean to the extent that 2120 01:31:06,470 --> 01:31:04,719 it is possible for them to do that 2121 01:31:08,229 --> 01:31:06,480 and no one's saying look threaten 2122 01:31:10,470 --> 01:31:08,239 national security i'm i'm not saying 2123 01:31:12,870 --> 01:31:10,480 that either but i do think look you've 2124 01:31:14,390 --> 01:31:12,880 got to have some mandate for public 2125 01:31:16,629 --> 01:31:14,400 accountability here 2126 01:31:18,629 --> 01:31:16,639 do you think 2127 01:31:19,990 --> 01:31:18,639 this is a yes or no answer we can follow 2128 01:31:23,030 --> 01:31:20,000 up after the break 2129 01:31:25,750 --> 01:31:23,040 let's say hypothetically 2130 01:31:30,470 --> 01:31:25,760 uh there is a crash retrieval that 2131 01:31:32,229 --> 01:31:30,480 occurs on on in a modern sense on this 2132 01:31:34,950 --> 01:31:32,239 watch 2133 01:31:38,390 --> 01:31:34,960 does that information 2134 01:31:40,310 --> 01:31:38,400 become unclassified in some regards 2135 01:31:42,390 --> 01:31:40,320 to report that the crash retrieval 2136 01:31:44,790 --> 01:31:42,400 happened not the technology not the 2137 01:31:46,870 --> 01:31:44,800 national security but that this did 2138 01:31:49,910 --> 01:31:46,880 happen would that be part of an 2139 01:31:51,590 --> 01:31:49,920 unclassified report a crash retreat i 2140 01:31:53,110 --> 01:31:51,600 will i doubt that it would i think it 2141 01:31:55,189 --> 01:31:53,120 should be i think we need to start 2142 01:31:56,470 --> 01:31:55,199 putting this all out i think it's got to 2143 01:31:58,550 --> 01:31:56,480 get out 2144 01:32:00,870 --> 01:31:58,560 almost i would say for 2145 01:32:03,430 --> 01:32:00,880 the salvation of our society frankly 2146 01:32:05,830 --> 01:32:03,440 we've we have got to end this secret we 2147 01:32:07,990 --> 01:32:05,840 have got to get all of this out so if 2148 01:32:09,669 --> 01:32:08,000 there is a crash retrieval yes i mean i 2149 01:32:13,430 --> 01:32:09,679 would like to see that reported will it 2150 01:32:16,470 --> 01:32:13,440 be reported i would tend to doubt it 2151 01:32:18,229 --> 01:32:16,480 i would tend to doubt it 2152 01:32:20,229 --> 01:32:18,239 you know there have been a number of 2153 01:32:22,629 --> 01:32:20,239 crash retrievals over the years in the 2154 01:32:23,350 --> 01:32:22,639 20th century when you really think about 2155 01:32:28,229 --> 01:32:23,360 it 2156 01:32:30,950 --> 01:32:28,239 century or they are really being covered 2157 01:32:33,110 --> 01:32:30,960 up very very well very effectively 2158 01:32:34,709 --> 01:32:33,120 and i don't know the answer 2159 01:32:36,790 --> 01:32:34,719 i suspect the latter i suspect that 2160 01:32:39,590 --> 01:32:36,800 there have been 2161 01:32:41,350 --> 01:32:39,600 continued retrievals 2162 01:32:42,629 --> 01:32:41,360 there's a lot of traffic up there 2163 01:32:44,390 --> 01:32:42,639 there's just a tremendous amount of 2164 01:32:45,430 --> 01:32:44,400 traffic that 2165 01:32:46,550 --> 01:32:45,440 uh 2166 01:32:48,310 --> 01:32:46,560 and that's another thing that's not 2167 01:32:51,350 --> 01:32:48,320 being discussed is the 2168 01:32:53,590 --> 01:32:51,360 amazing quantity of ufo sightings that 2169 01:32:55,350 --> 01:32:53,600 happen every single year 2170 01:32:56,950 --> 01:32:55,360 it's like every day around the world 2171 01:33:00,870 --> 01:32:56,960 there's some other good sighting that 2172 01:33:04,229 --> 01:33:00,880 happens it's there's a global 2173 01:33:06,950 --> 01:33:04,239 operation going on by these beings 2174 01:33:09,270 --> 01:33:06,960 they're operating around our world 2175 01:33:10,629 --> 01:33:09,280 all the time every day what the hell are 2176 01:33:12,229 --> 01:33:10,639 they doing 2177 01:33:13,750 --> 01:33:12,239 i think that's weird 2178 01:33:15,830 --> 01:33:13,760 yeah i think that was one of the 2179 01:33:18,149 --> 01:33:15,840 concerns with the odni 2180 01:33:21,030 --> 01:33:18,159 which is wait a minute 2181 01:33:23,750 --> 01:33:21,040 what do you mean you have information on 2182 01:33:25,830 --> 01:33:23,760 crash retrievals what do you mean you 2183 01:33:27,910 --> 01:33:25,840 have data on uaps does it seem 2184 01:33:29,990 --> 01:33:27,920 outrageous that the odni is not going to 2185 01:33:32,550 --> 01:33:30,000 know right and that's what they okay and 2186 01:33:35,430 --> 01:33:32,560 i said this stuff needs to come into my 2187 01:33:37,830 --> 01:33:35,440 office now and i want to know who has 2188 01:33:40,070 --> 01:33:37,840 been responsible for 2189 01:33:43,350 --> 01:33:40,080 keeping this information to yourself at 2190 01:33:44,950 --> 01:33:43,360 every single level in every division i 2191 01:33:46,950 --> 01:33:44,960 know we got break we've been dealing 2192 01:33:49,350 --> 01:33:46,960 with this phenomenon for almost 80 years 2193 01:33:52,070 --> 01:33:49,360 at least that we know of these beings 2194 01:33:53,910 --> 01:33:52,080 have been here that long if not longer 2195 01:33:55,830 --> 01:33:53,920 they know us very well and when you 2196 01:33:57,510 --> 01:33:55,840 start looking into abduction accounts 2197 01:33:59,510 --> 01:33:57,520 they're operating on 2198 01:34:02,310 --> 01:33:59,520 levels beyond us 2199 01:34:03,350 --> 01:34:02,320 uh and some of them can look human 2200 01:34:06,550 --> 01:34:03,360 okay 2201 01:34:07,830 --> 01:34:06,560 so what are they doing that's 2202 01:34:09,910 --> 01:34:07,840 we're we have to deal with some 2203 01:34:12,390 --> 01:34:09,920 important questions here and in terms of 2204 01:34:14,790 --> 01:34:12,400 the full reality behind this phenomenon 2205 01:34:17,189 --> 01:34:14,800 and for that for od and i 2206 01:34:18,629 --> 01:34:17,199 to have this attitude of what's actually 2207 01:34:20,629 --> 01:34:18,639 going on yeah i don't even know what 2208 01:34:23,110 --> 01:34:20,639 you're talking about yeah exactly let's 2209 01:34:24,629 --> 01:34:23,120 take our break to get this in this is 2210 01:34:28,550 --> 01:34:24,639 fade to black i'm your host 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jimmy church on the game changing 2284 01:38:25,430 --> 01:38:22,550 hi i'm rhys evans you're listening to 2285 01:38:28,229 --> 01:38:25,440 jimmy church this is revolution the 2286 01:38:31,590 --> 01:38:28,239 revolution will not be televised the 2287 01:38:36,190 --> 01:38:31,600 revolution is on radio 2288 01:38:36,200 --> 01:39:03,750 [Music] 2289 01:39:14,390 --> 01:39:05,360 so 2290 01:39:17,430 --> 01:39:15,750 welcome back paint to black i'm here 2291 01:39:19,750 --> 01:39:17,440 with jimmy church 2292 01:39:21,350 --> 01:39:19,760 here we go another great conversation 2293 01:39:24,229 --> 01:39:21,360 with richard dolan 2294 01:39:29,270 --> 01:39:26,070 just gonna 2295 01:39:32,870 --> 01:39:29,280 in from 2296 01:39:35,300 --> 01:39:32,880 moon world recordings and the tweet says 2297 01:39:39,030 --> 01:39:35,310 richard dolan for uap czar 2298 01:39:41,189 --> 01:39:39,040 [Laughter] 2299 01:39:44,470 --> 01:39:41,199 okay let's stop right there for a second 2300 01:39:46,550 --> 01:39:44,480 richard would you let's just say 2301 01:39:48,790 --> 01:39:46,560 right in the philip k dick alternate 2302 01:39:49,830 --> 01:39:48,800 universe that something like that did 2303 01:39:51,510 --> 01:39:49,840 happen 2304 01:39:53,669 --> 01:39:51,520 would you accept that kind of challenge 2305 01:39:55,350 --> 01:39:53,679 would you apply yourself 2306 01:39:57,030 --> 01:39:55,360 yeah i mean look it's either put up or 2307 01:39:59,350 --> 01:39:57,040 shut up right so i mean here i am i'm 2308 01:40:01,030 --> 01:39:59,360 mouthing off about ufo secrecy and if i 2309 01:40:02,870 --> 01:40:01,040 had an opportunity to do something about 2310 01:40:05,030 --> 01:40:02,880 it yes i think i would have you ever 2311 01:40:08,149 --> 01:40:05,040 thought about public office i i think 2312 01:40:10,390 --> 01:40:08,159 i've asked you this before 2313 01:40:13,030 --> 01:40:10,400 you have yes yeah 2314 01:40:15,270 --> 01:40:13,040 um yeah i have no desire to do that i 2315 01:40:17,430 --> 01:40:15,280 have no intention or desire 2316 01:40:19,109 --> 01:40:17,440 to do that you didn't just say earlier i 2317 01:40:21,669 --> 01:40:19,119 mean it's not look 2318 01:40:23,590 --> 01:40:21,679 we this isn't like jimmy stewart mr 2319 01:40:24,950 --> 01:40:23,600 smith goes to washington i mean i'm 2320 01:40:25,750 --> 01:40:24,960 really sorry 2321 01:40:29,270 --> 01:40:25,760 but 2322 01:40:31,030 --> 01:40:29,280 uh i haven't had a political career 2323 01:40:33,830 --> 01:40:31,040 i don't have 2324 01:40:36,390 --> 01:40:33,840 uh i i'm not a fundraiser 2325 01:40:37,750 --> 01:40:36,400 i don't work in that world like it just 2326 01:40:41,030 --> 01:40:37,760 it wouldn't happen like i wouldn't 2327 01:40:42,790 --> 01:40:41,040 succeed i at least i don't want to try 2328 01:40:44,310 --> 01:40:42,800 to to deal with that world and i know 2329 01:40:46,790 --> 01:40:44,320 this sounds like a cop out but look 2330 01:40:48,310 --> 01:40:46,800 there's only i i've got certain things 2331 01:40:49,990 --> 01:40:48,320 that i think i'm good at and certain 2332 01:40:51,669 --> 01:40:50,000 things that i probably would not be good 2333 01:40:54,870 --> 01:40:51,679 at and i just 2334 01:40:56,629 --> 01:40:54,880 uh public office no when i was a kid a 2335 01:40:59,109 --> 01:40:56,639 lot of kids think oh yeah i want to be 2336 01:41:02,310 --> 01:40:59,119 president you know that doesn't count 2337 01:41:05,109 --> 01:41:02,320 as far as sirius thought about it 2338 01:41:07,350 --> 01:41:05,119 i'm very public policy engaged like i 2339 01:41:09,189 --> 01:41:07,360 think about politics all the time i 2340 01:41:11,350 --> 01:41:09,199 think about international politics all 2341 01:41:12,950 --> 01:41:11,360 the time i think about national politics 2342 01:41:14,790 --> 01:41:12,960 but 2343 01:41:16,709 --> 01:41:14,800 for me actually to go in and be one of 2344 01:41:18,709 --> 01:41:16,719 those people i just i don't think it 2345 01:41:20,229 --> 01:41:18,719 would ever i don't think it was the the 2346 01:41:22,950 --> 01:41:20,239 destiny for me 2347 01:41:26,310 --> 01:41:22,960 you brought up a conspiracy theory 2348 01:41:29,590 --> 01:41:26,320 earlier and uh and and i i do want to 2349 01:41:33,109 --> 01:41:29,600 address uh something uh that you and i 2350 01:41:35,189 --> 01:41:33,119 both participated in in 2021 we release 2351 01:41:38,149 --> 01:41:35,199 not one but two films 2352 01:41:39,990 --> 01:41:38,159 and extraordinary the revelations which 2353 01:41:43,510 --> 01:41:40,000 of course was shot a couple of years ago 2354 01:41:46,629 --> 01:41:43,520 i narrated it uh an excellent film 2355 01:41:47,669 --> 01:41:46,639 and then of course the observers um 2356 01:41:50,229 --> 01:41:47,679 which 2357 01:41:52,950 --> 01:41:50,239 is another i mean just an exceptional 2358 01:41:54,070 --> 01:41:52,960 film i'm very proud of but one of the 2359 01:41:56,310 --> 01:41:54,080 points 2360 01:41:59,510 --> 01:41:56,320 and i want to 2361 01:42:00,470 --> 01:41:59,520 really thank jesse ventura for his 2362 01:42:01,990 --> 01:42:00,480 contribution 2363 01:42:04,950 --> 01:42:02,000 in this film 2364 01:42:07,590 --> 01:42:04,960 because one of the things that he brings 2365 01:42:09,430 --> 01:42:07,600 up he does it via 2366 01:42:10,870 --> 01:42:09,440 the jfk 2367 01:42:14,149 --> 01:42:10,880 assassination 2368 01:42:15,990 --> 01:42:14,159 but but his point being that if there's 2369 01:42:19,189 --> 01:42:16,000 a conspiracy here and if you don't think 2370 01:42:21,030 --> 01:42:19,199 secrets can be held it's it's dealing 2371 01:42:23,910 --> 01:42:21,040 with ufos 2372 01:42:25,350 --> 01:42:23,920 and the this is the biggest conspiracy 2373 01:42:28,310 --> 01:42:25,360 of all time 2374 01:42:31,189 --> 01:42:28,320 and i would have to agree with jesse and 2375 01:42:33,830 --> 01:42:31,199 the way that he presented it in the film 2376 01:42:36,229 --> 01:42:33,840 that if if if you want to 2377 01:42:38,709 --> 01:42:36,239 you know bring up conspiracies and and 2378 01:42:40,629 --> 01:42:38,719 how the man can control the narrative 2379 01:42:42,950 --> 01:42:40,639 and control the secrets 2380 01:42:46,229 --> 01:42:42,960 here's this and it's right here in front 2381 01:42:48,629 --> 01:42:46,239 of us yeah i would say that yeah i love 2382 01:42:51,750 --> 01:42:48,639 that we you got jesse on there that was 2383 01:42:55,350 --> 01:42:51,760 fantastic there i think there are four 2384 01:43:00,229 --> 01:42:55,360 fundamental defining conspiracies of our 2385 01:43:01,350 --> 01:43:00,239 era of this lifetime so you got jfk yes 2386 01:43:04,709 --> 01:43:01,360 um 2387 01:43:08,870 --> 01:43:04,719 ufos yes so maybe start with ufos you 2388 01:43:11,910 --> 01:43:08,880 for ufos then jfk then 911 and now covid 2389 01:43:15,149 --> 01:43:11,920 i i consider personally all of those to 2390 01:43:18,070 --> 01:43:15,159 have highest level conspiratorial like 2391 01:43:19,990 --> 01:43:18,080 diabolical conspiratorial aspects to 2392 01:43:22,149 --> 01:43:20,000 them each one of those do you probably 2393 01:43:24,030 --> 01:43:22,159 i'm sure there's more but i i would say 2394 01:43:26,229 --> 01:43:24,040 those are probably the top four are you 2395 01:43:28,629 --> 01:43:26,239 surprised uh 2396 01:43:31,990 --> 01:43:28,639 i keep saying this because we are in the 2397 01:43:36,149 --> 01:43:32,000 middle of uh this this turning point in 2398 01:43:39,109 --> 01:43:36,159 history but are you surprised how 2399 01:43:43,590 --> 01:43:39,119 the media was used 2400 01:43:44,550 --> 01:43:43,600 to control immediately the entire planet 2401 01:43:47,350 --> 01:43:44,560 and 2402 01:43:49,910 --> 01:43:47,360 coverage 2403 01:43:53,750 --> 01:43:49,920 i'm talking about that and everything 2404 01:43:56,229 --> 01:43:53,760 else that obviously uh applies to that 2405 01:43:58,629 --> 01:43:56,239 you have the pandemic of course but you 2406 01:44:01,109 --> 01:43:58,639 have employment you have transportation 2407 01:44:03,430 --> 01:44:01,119 you have airlines you have global 2408 01:44:06,149 --> 01:44:03,440 distribution uh 2409 01:44:09,109 --> 01:44:06,159 the the control mechanism 2410 01:44:12,390 --> 01:44:09,119 that switch was flipped 2411 01:44:14,470 --> 01:44:12,400 yes and every country took the bait 2412 01:44:17,510 --> 01:44:14,480 everyone no that 2413 01:44:19,270 --> 01:44:17,520 yes i will say what shocked me 2414 01:44:22,709 --> 01:44:19,280 was the speed 2415 01:44:25,030 --> 01:44:22,719 and the incredible impeccable 2416 01:44:25,910 --> 01:44:25,040 international coordination 2417 01:44:26,790 --> 01:44:25,920 that 2418 01:44:28,790 --> 01:44:26,800 like 2419 01:44:31,430 --> 01:44:28,800 clearly 2420 01:44:34,870 --> 01:44:31,440 all you've got we've got 200 sovereign 2421 01:44:36,149 --> 01:44:34,880 nations on planet earth all right 2422 01:44:38,709 --> 01:44:36,159 and they 2423 01:44:41,109 --> 01:44:38,719 oh like almost all of them have mirrored 2424 01:44:42,790 --> 01:44:41,119 each other in their response to this how 2425 01:44:44,950 --> 01:44:42,800 believable is that 2426 01:44:47,030 --> 01:44:44,960 and they and they all and and in the 2427 01:44:48,790 --> 01:44:47,040 most um 2428 01:44:50,390 --> 01:44:48,800 you know in like the english-speaking 2429 01:44:52,390 --> 01:44:50,400 nations the the british commonwealth 2430 01:44:53,910 --> 01:44:52,400 nations i mean that's that's obvious 2431 01:44:56,149 --> 01:44:53,920 that they're all in lockstep with each 2432 01:44:58,470 --> 01:44:56,159 other you got the uk you got canada new 2433 01:45:00,830 --> 01:44:58,480 zealand and australia uh each trying to 2434 01:45:03,109 --> 01:45:00,840 out-compete each other in in 2435 01:45:04,390 --> 01:45:03,119 totalitarianism uh you know those 2436 01:45:05,189 --> 01:45:04,400 countries had a good run but they're 2437 01:45:09,109 --> 01:45:05,199 done 2438 01:45:10,550 --> 01:45:09,119 uh they've they've destroyed freedom in 2439 01:45:11,669 --> 01:45:10,560 their societies 2440 01:45:13,669 --> 01:45:11,679 it's gone 2441 01:45:15,350 --> 01:45:13,679 and and you see 2442 01:45:18,070 --> 01:45:15,360 uh the complete 2443 01:45:21,430 --> 01:45:18,080 domination of major media 2444 01:45:23,910 --> 01:45:21,440 the installation of massive fear 2445 01:45:25,990 --> 01:45:23,920 among the global population 2446 01:45:28,830 --> 01:45:26,000 uh the 2447 01:45:32,149 --> 01:45:28,840 the the fact that they're able to now 2448 01:45:34,390 --> 01:45:32,159 have i mean in new york state where i am 2449 01:45:36,390 --> 01:45:34,400 living still 2450 01:45:38,070 --> 01:45:36,400 uh the governor has just authorized 2451 01:45:39,189 --> 01:45:38,080 herself or she's got authorization 2452 01:45:40,870 --> 01:45:39,199 whatever it is 2453 01:45:42,629 --> 01:45:40,880 uh to 2454 01:45:44,629 --> 01:45:42,639 detain 2455 01:45:46,709 --> 01:45:44,639 any individual 2456 01:45:49,830 --> 01:45:46,719 based on whether they are a 2457 01:45:52,070 --> 01:45:49,840 a perceived threat for 2458 01:45:53,669 --> 01:45:52,080 spreading a contagious disease 2459 01:45:54,709 --> 01:45:53,679 that means they could they could take me 2460 01:45:57,109 --> 01:45:54,719 they could take my neighbor they could 2461 01:45:58,470 --> 01:45:57,119 take anyone and say you're a danger and 2462 01:46:00,709 --> 01:45:58,480 we're going to move i think they're 2463 01:46:02,870 --> 01:46:00,719 doing this in australia already and now 2464 01:46:04,149 --> 01:46:02,880 new york state wants to do it so 2465 01:46:05,910 --> 01:46:04,159 well i don't want to how is this 2466 01:46:08,870 --> 01:46:05,920 possible but they're they're all doing 2467 01:46:10,550 --> 01:46:08,880 it well and here's the here's the crazy 2468 01:46:12,550 --> 01:46:10,560 part um 2469 01:46:14,390 --> 01:46:12,560 i don't want 2470 01:46:16,790 --> 01:46:14,400 in my living in fear 2471 01:46:20,030 --> 01:46:16,800 i don't want this show 2472 01:46:23,109 --> 01:46:20,040 to be censored or shut down so i am 2473 01:46:25,510 --> 01:46:23,119 constantly because of the bots that are 2474 01:46:27,510 --> 01:46:25,520 running and scanning for 2475 01:46:28,470 --> 01:46:27,520 for language 2476 01:46:30,629 --> 01:46:28,480 um 2477 01:46:32,709 --> 01:46:30,639 and and 2478 01:46:35,189 --> 01:46:32,719 no no no no but that but but 2479 01:46:38,390 --> 01:46:35,199 i'm addressing your point directly 2480 01:46:41,990 --> 01:46:38,400 that even i have to recognize 2481 01:46:45,590 --> 01:46:42,000 the line that shall not be crossed 2482 01:46:48,149 --> 01:46:45,600 because if it is crossed then my voice 2483 01:46:50,470 --> 01:46:48,159 is is taken away from the conversation 2484 01:46:52,709 --> 01:46:50,480 and and think about this youtube has 2485 01:46:54,790 --> 01:46:52,719 removed the dislike 2486 01:46:56,149 --> 01:46:54,800 count so you can't you go to a youtube 2487 01:46:58,390 --> 01:46:56,159 video you can't see how many people 2488 01:47:01,590 --> 01:46:58,400 dislike it do we does we haven't even 2489 01:47:02,790 --> 01:47:01,600 talked about how pernicious and evil 2490 01:47:04,870 --> 01:47:02,800 that is 2491 01:47:06,790 --> 01:47:04,880 that's actually i would say that's evil 2492 01:47:09,590 --> 01:47:06,800 you want to know why it's evil because 2493 01:47:12,229 --> 01:47:09,600 the dislike button was one of the few 2494 01:47:14,709 --> 01:47:12,239 areas where people could actually voice 2495 01:47:16,790 --> 01:47:14,719 like ordinary people could voice their 2496 01:47:18,390 --> 01:47:16,800 opinions on mainstream corporate 2497 01:47:20,390 --> 01:47:18,400 propaganda 2498 01:47:23,189 --> 01:47:20,400 right so like when you take a youtube 2499 01:47:25,430 --> 01:47:23,199 account youtube uh you know they'll push 2500 01:47:28,390 --> 01:47:25,440 they'll push all the corporate bs on 2501 01:47:30,149 --> 01:47:28,400 yous all the cnn and all the garbage and 2502 01:47:32,310 --> 01:47:30,159 and people can dislike the hell out of 2503 01:47:34,629 --> 01:47:32,320 it they can dislike the white house 2504 01:47:36,470 --> 01:47:34,639 youtube account which they love to do 2505 01:47:38,550 --> 01:47:36,480 and youtube like when when trump was 2506 01:47:40,629 --> 01:47:38,560 president it's like yeah go go after him 2507 01:47:43,109 --> 01:47:40,639 but trump didn't get the dislikes that 2508 01:47:45,669 --> 01:47:43,119 biden's white house youtube channel was 2509 01:47:48,629 --> 01:47:45,679 getting not even close not even close 2510 01:47:50,149 --> 01:47:48,639 and so they trashed that they ratioed 2511 01:47:52,709 --> 01:47:50,159 the hell out of they ratioed the hell 2512 01:47:55,750 --> 01:47:52,719 out of cnn which of course is corporate 2513 01:47:57,030 --> 01:47:55,760 propaganda government propaganda and i 2514 01:47:58,709 --> 01:47:57,040 think they just got tired of it and 2515 01:48:00,470 --> 01:47:58,719 they're like we're going to remove the 2516 01:48:04,149 --> 01:48:00,480 dislike feature 2517 01:48:06,629 --> 01:48:04,159 to protect small operators like yeah who 2518 01:48:07,910 --> 01:48:06,639 believes that no everyone knows that's a 2519 01:48:10,550 --> 01:48:07,920 lie 2520 01:48:12,950 --> 01:48:10,560 it's all it's just taking power away 2521 01:48:14,790 --> 01:48:12,960 from people yet again just that simple 2522 01:48:16,790 --> 01:48:14,800 thing and what is youtube private 2523 01:48:18,470 --> 01:48:16,800 corporation owned by google owned by 2524 01:48:20,550 --> 01:48:18,480 alphabet in bed with the national 2525 01:48:22,550 --> 01:48:20,560 security state we all know 2526 01:48:23,510 --> 01:48:22,560 so they're doing the work for them 2527 01:48:25,430 --> 01:48:23,520 it's 2528 01:48:28,870 --> 01:48:25,440 that's evil 2529 01:48:31,669 --> 01:48:28,880 it's been across the board and anybody 2530 01:48:33,830 --> 01:48:31,679 can just it doesn't matter 2531 01:48:36,870 --> 01:48:33,840 who you are or what you believe in or 2532 01:48:39,990 --> 01:48:36,880 whatever you can recognize and see what 2533 01:48:42,550 --> 01:48:40,000 is going on and it's on every level 2534 01:48:43,830 --> 01:48:42,560 of uh it's it's on the internet it's on 2535 01:48:45,590 --> 01:48:43,840 television 2536 01:48:49,189 --> 01:48:45,600 and it's in the media it's in the 2537 01:48:52,310 --> 01:48:49,199 newspapers and and print media it's it's 2538 01:48:54,189 --> 01:48:52,320 across the board and you're right it's 2539 01:48:56,709 --> 01:48:54,199 lockstep it's 2540 01:48:58,390 --> 01:48:56,719 everybody is on board with this now i 2541 01:49:00,790 --> 01:48:58,400 just wanted to uh 2542 01:49:01,750 --> 01:49:00,800 uh do this i said i would do it live on 2543 01:49:04,790 --> 01:49:01,760 the air 2544 01:49:07,030 --> 01:49:04,800 race hobbs uh just texted me 2545 01:49:09,990 --> 01:49:07,040 and said best show of the year 2546 01:49:11,910 --> 01:49:10,000 uh happy new year uh to richard dolan 2547 01:49:14,470 --> 01:49:11,920 and uh to jimmy church and please say 2548 01:49:16,070 --> 01:49:14,480 happy new year for me and i said i'll do 2549 01:49:18,550 --> 01:49:16,080 it right now on the air so there's 2550 01:49:21,270 --> 01:49:18,560 another man that i love that we love 2551 01:49:22,629 --> 01:49:21,280 race is the best he's the absolute best 2552 01:49:25,030 --> 01:49:22,639 and that's another thing that happened 2553 01:49:29,189 --> 01:49:25,040 in in 2021 2554 01:49:32,149 --> 01:49:29,199 uh race and the unax network i mean just 2555 01:49:35,510 --> 01:49:32,159 an incredible uh thing for this 2556 01:49:38,149 --> 01:49:35,520 community to uh to not only launch 2557 01:49:39,270 --> 01:49:38,159 um but to go straight to number one so 2558 01:49:41,189 --> 01:49:39,280 quickly 2559 01:49:43,669 --> 01:49:41,199 and uh 2560 01:49:46,070 --> 01:49:43,679 i i just thank race hobbs every single 2561 01:49:49,589 --> 01:49:46,080 day man i owe raise a phone call race 2562 01:49:55,030 --> 01:49:52,310 hold on that's the other part of this uh 2563 01:49:56,870 --> 01:49:55,040 uh he doesn't return my phone calls i 2564 01:49:57,750 --> 01:49:56,880 think is in the text no i'm kidding i'm 2565 01:49:58,709 --> 01:49:57,760 kidding 2566 01:50:00,310 --> 01:49:58,719 we 2567 01:50:03,350 --> 01:50:00,320 talk about it you know 2568 01:50:05,589 --> 01:50:03,360 and uh i i raise i owe you a phone call 2569 01:50:06,629 --> 01:50:05,599 too so there you go i can't believe i i 2570 01:50:09,189 --> 01:50:06,639 haven't talked to race through the 2571 01:50:12,550 --> 01:50:09,199 holidays and uh there you go all right 2572 01:50:13,910 --> 01:50:12,560 race um which means he's listening uh to 2573 01:50:15,189 --> 01:50:13,920 us right now and i'm almost 2574 01:50:17,510 --> 01:50:15,199 uncomfortable 2575 01:50:19,030 --> 01:50:17,520 that uh it's 2576 01:50:22,149 --> 01:50:19,040 being monitored 2577 01:50:23,430 --> 01:50:22,159 and uh so there you go okay yeah but 2578 01:50:24,870 --> 01:50:23,440 um 2579 01:50:27,510 --> 01:50:24,880 with this 2580 01:50:28,470 --> 01:50:27,520 the surprise for me though 2581 01:50:29,669 --> 01:50:28,480 is 2582 01:50:32,470 --> 01:50:29,679 how 2583 01:50:34,149 --> 01:50:32,480 this coverage has been i'm talking about 2584 01:50:37,350 --> 01:50:34,159 uaps and ufos 2585 01:50:41,430 --> 01:50:37,360 has has been out there and out there but 2586 01:50:43,589 --> 01:50:41,440 buried because of all the other fear 2587 01:50:46,870 --> 01:50:43,599 headlines that are out there 2588 01:50:48,149 --> 01:50:46,880 and in any other year richard 2589 01:50:51,910 --> 01:50:48,159 we won 2590 01:50:53,990 --> 01:50:51,920 right and it's been buried well ask 2591 01:50:55,350 --> 01:50:54,000 yourself is is this an accident or is 2592 01:50:59,589 --> 01:50:55,360 this 2593 01:51:02,310 --> 01:50:59,599 i'm not saying that they they created a 2594 01:51:04,470 --> 01:51:02,320 pandemic specifically to bury ufo 2595 01:51:07,589 --> 01:51:04,480 information i don't know 2596 01:51:10,070 --> 01:51:07,599 i mean i i do know and you asked me when 2597 01:51:11,189 --> 01:51:10,080 this started two years ago did i think 2598 01:51:13,750 --> 01:51:11,199 this was 2599 01:51:17,109 --> 01:51:13,760 out of a lab and i said yes 2600 01:51:19,350 --> 01:51:17,119 i told you i remember that i do 2601 01:51:20,709 --> 01:51:19,360 and i don't remember what your opinion 2602 01:51:22,790 --> 01:51:20,719 was but i knew mine right out of the 2603 01:51:25,270 --> 01:51:22,800 gate i was like this came out of a bio 2604 01:51:26,149 --> 01:51:25,280 for a level four bio weapons lap and 2605 01:51:29,109 --> 01:51:26,159 you're not going to convince me 2606 01:51:31,109 --> 01:51:29,119 otherwise and i still think that i i you 2607 01:51:35,669 --> 01:51:31,119 know what i said then 2608 01:51:37,669 --> 01:51:35,679 and i i still say it now um when i got 2609 01:51:39,270 --> 01:51:37,679 it when i got the rona 2610 01:51:40,870 --> 01:51:39,280 it felt 2611 01:51:43,109 --> 01:51:40,880 mechanical 2612 01:51:45,750 --> 01:51:43,119 and it was a weird 2613 01:51:47,669 --> 01:51:45,760 you know type of adjective to apply to 2614 01:51:51,430 --> 01:51:47,679 this but it felt 2615 01:51:53,589 --> 01:51:51,440 mechanical it felt deliberate it is 2616 01:51:55,589 --> 01:51:53,599 yeah it's been bio-engineered it felt 2617 01:51:58,070 --> 01:51:55,599 mechanical to me i mean it's one of the 2618 01:51:59,830 --> 01:51:58,080 weirdest viruses it really does do i 2619 01:52:01,270 --> 01:51:59,840 mean now you know the virus is doing 2620 01:52:03,350 --> 01:52:01,280 what it's supposed to do which is to 2621 01:52:05,510 --> 01:52:03,360 mutate into a less virulent strain 2622 01:52:08,629 --> 01:52:05,520 because the virus wants to survive 2623 01:52:10,550 --> 01:52:08,639 so in in literally it is becoming more 2624 01:52:12,790 --> 01:52:10,560 and more analogous to a common cold and 2625 01:52:14,070 --> 01:52:12,800 that's not overstating the case it's 2626 01:52:15,109 --> 01:52:14,080 actually true 2627 01:52:17,589 --> 01:52:15,119 so it's 2628 01:52:20,390 --> 01:52:17,599 much less it's much more transmissible 2629 01:52:23,189 --> 01:52:20,400 than the previous strain we know that 2630 01:52:25,350 --> 01:52:23,199 but it's clearly less virulent 2631 01:52:27,669 --> 01:52:25,360 all right it's obviously less virulent 2632 01:52:29,350 --> 01:52:27,679 and um 2633 01:52:30,950 --> 01:52:29,360 you know i mean i'm not saying it's yet 2634 01:52:32,950 --> 01:52:30,960 the common cold but for many people it 2635 01:52:34,950 --> 01:52:32,960 is actually for many people it seems 2636 01:52:37,109 --> 01:52:34,960 indistinguishable from that so that's 2637 01:52:39,189 --> 01:52:37,119 good and we want that like you want it 2638 01:52:41,990 --> 01:52:39,199 to do exactly what it's doing but the 2639 01:52:44,149 --> 01:52:42,000 point is it also is doing weird things 2640 01:52:45,750 --> 01:52:44,159 long term like we've heard about how it 2641 01:52:47,189 --> 01:52:45,760 gets into the heart or the lungs or now 2642 01:52:49,430 --> 01:52:47,199 the kidneys i was just reading about 2643 01:52:51,990 --> 01:52:49,440 this or the brain so there's weird 2644 01:52:53,350 --> 01:52:52,000 things or the reproductive system let's 2645 01:52:56,629 --> 01:52:53,360 not forget that 2646 01:52:59,030 --> 01:52:56,639 i think it does seem to screw with uh 2647 01:53:01,270 --> 01:52:59,040 the bad now it seems to mess with our 2648 01:53:03,430 --> 01:53:01,280 ability to reproduce 2649 01:53:05,350 --> 01:53:03,440 at least temporarily maybe permanently i 2650 01:53:08,229 --> 01:53:05,360 don't know so there's things about this 2651 01:53:10,229 --> 01:53:08,239 virus that are weird 2652 01:53:11,830 --> 01:53:10,239 all right it's not natural 2653 01:53:15,350 --> 01:53:11,840 now is 2654 01:53:16,470 --> 01:53:15,360 okay so what if if we if we look at at 2655 01:53:18,629 --> 01:53:16,480 nature 2656 01:53:19,830 --> 01:53:18,639 let's let's put the rhona to the side 2657 01:53:25,189 --> 01:53:19,840 for a second 2658 01:53:26,470 --> 01:53:25,199 um i had just read a report today about 2659 01:53:28,709 --> 01:53:26,480 uh 2660 01:53:31,750 --> 01:53:28,719 i want to get this right it was 2661 01:53:33,589 --> 01:53:31,760 thousands of cranes birds 2662 01:53:35,350 --> 01:53:33,599 just up and died 2663 01:53:36,229 --> 01:53:35,360 from a virus 2664 01:53:39,189 --> 01:53:36,239 now 2665 01:53:41,510 --> 01:53:39,199 the is is this just nature is this just 2666 01:53:42,870 --> 01:53:41,520 the thinning of the herd is this just 2667 01:53:46,310 --> 01:53:42,880 something that 2668 01:53:48,790 --> 01:53:46,320 the planet goes through uh through all 2669 01:53:49,589 --> 01:53:48,800 of the biological systems on this planet 2670 01:53:51,350 --> 01:53:49,599 where 2671 01:53:54,629 --> 01:53:51,360 things like this happen 2672 01:53:56,470 --> 01:53:54,639 you live through it and then you come 2673 01:53:58,310 --> 01:53:56,480 out on the other side 2674 01:53:59,750 --> 01:53:58,320 whatever you know if you're no 2675 01:54:01,350 --> 01:53:59,760 personally i think i think these are all 2676 01:54:03,189 --> 01:54:01,360 human generated 2677 01:54:06,790 --> 01:54:03,199 let's let's get real you know we we've 2678 01:54:09,510 --> 01:54:06,800 completely remade the global ecosystem 2679 01:54:12,790 --> 01:54:09,520 we've just we've put our imprint 2680 01:54:15,109 --> 01:54:12,800 on the entire we're one species 2681 01:54:17,109 --> 01:54:15,119 we're one species we have 2682 01:54:19,350 --> 01:54:17,119 absolutely terraformed 2683 01:54:22,629 --> 01:54:19,360 so much of the world we have pushed out 2684 01:54:25,189 --> 01:54:22,639 all so many natural species uh massive 2685 01:54:27,030 --> 01:54:25,199 extinctions are happening now right we 2686 01:54:29,270 --> 01:54:27,040 we all know this 2687 01:54:31,189 --> 01:54:29,280 and uh yes we're having we're having a 2688 01:54:33,109 --> 01:54:31,199 massive impact on the 2689 01:54:35,350 --> 01:54:33,119 on the other populations that we live 2690 01:54:37,030 --> 01:54:35,360 with that we share this planet with and 2691 01:54:38,470 --> 01:54:37,040 so i don't know about this specific 2692 01:54:40,470 --> 01:54:38,480 situation you're talking about with 2693 01:54:41,270 --> 01:54:40,480 these cranes but 2694 01:54:46,149 --> 01:54:41,280 um 2695 01:54:47,910 --> 01:54:46,159 and i'm not saying it's all global 2696 01:54:49,109 --> 01:54:47,920 warming i'm just saying it's our human 2697 01:54:51,589 --> 01:54:49,119 impact 2698 01:54:53,510 --> 01:54:51,599 we are having we have an unnatural 2699 01:54:56,550 --> 01:54:53,520 impact we've created an unnatural 2700 01:54:58,629 --> 01:54:56,560 society we're not living in a natural 2701 01:54:59,910 --> 01:54:58,639 world anymore 2702 01:55:01,589 --> 01:54:59,920 people can go through their entire day 2703 01:55:03,430 --> 01:55:01,599 and not even see the sky or look at the 2704 01:55:04,550 --> 01:55:03,440 stars we don't live in a natural 2705 01:55:06,870 --> 01:55:04,560 environment 2706 01:55:08,709 --> 01:55:06,880 so we've we've transformed this world in 2707 01:55:10,070 --> 01:55:08,719 ways and we just 2708 01:55:11,990 --> 01:55:10,080 you know i mean obviously there's going 2709 01:55:14,870 --> 01:55:12,000 to be repercussions of that 2710 01:55:17,350 --> 01:55:14,880 how has it changed to you 2711 01:55:22,149 --> 01:55:17,360 how is what changed this 2712 01:55:26,229 --> 01:55:23,109 well 2713 01:55:32,229 --> 01:55:28,550 you know it's it is um 2714 01:55:34,149 --> 01:55:32,239 in many ways like my mind is looking 2715 01:55:35,910 --> 01:55:34,159 into things at a deeper level than i've 2716 01:55:38,149 --> 01:55:35,920 ever looked at before 2717 01:55:39,990 --> 01:55:38,159 i think i think living through what is a 2718 01:55:41,430 --> 01:55:40,000 globalist revolution because that's that 2719 01:55:44,790 --> 01:55:41,440 is what we're living in 2720 01:55:46,390 --> 01:55:44,800 from a philosophical perspective 2721 01:55:48,709 --> 01:55:46,400 yes so i've no i've gone into a lot of 2722 01:55:50,070 --> 01:55:48,719 philosophical places in the last couple 2723 01:55:52,070 --> 01:55:50,080 of years that i don't think i've ever 2724 01:55:53,830 --> 01:55:52,080 even approached before 2725 01:55:56,070 --> 01:55:53,840 that's the truth and and that includes 2726 01:55:57,990 --> 01:55:56,080 spirituality i'm just going to say that 2727 01:55:59,109 --> 01:55:58,000 to you into the audience 2728 01:56:01,750 --> 01:55:59,119 um 2729 01:56:03,910 --> 01:56:01,760 i it's a weird thing to say but i'm in a 2730 01:56:05,910 --> 01:56:03,920 vastly more 2731 01:56:07,589 --> 01:56:05,920 spiritually focused 2732 01:56:10,550 --> 01:56:07,599 uh direction than i've ever been in my 2733 01:56:12,870 --> 01:56:10,560 whole life uh previously being more 2734 01:56:15,030 --> 01:56:12,880 analytical and pragmatic and and black 2735 01:56:19,189 --> 01:56:15,040 and white and and not well i'm still 2736 01:56:20,550 --> 01:56:19,199 that i'm still that but um 2737 01:56:22,550 --> 01:56:20,560 yeah i mean i don't know if that's all 2738 01:56:24,790 --> 01:56:22,560 as a result of uh the covet and the 2739 01:56:27,030 --> 01:56:24,800 lockdowns i mean you know i dealt with 2740 01:56:29,910 --> 01:56:27,040 uh i lost both of my parents in the last 2741 01:56:31,669 --> 01:56:29,920 few years i had a lot of shake-ups 2742 01:56:33,910 --> 01:56:31,679 in the family that you know got me 2743 01:56:37,109 --> 01:56:33,920 thinking about mortality right 2744 01:56:38,550 --> 01:56:37,119 so there was that um 2745 01:56:41,669 --> 01:56:38,560 but in terms of dealing with the 2746 01:56:43,350 --> 01:56:41,679 pandemic and 2747 01:56:45,830 --> 01:56:43,360 what you know the big thing that i have 2748 01:56:48,189 --> 01:56:45,840 seen is that we're in the midst of a 2749 01:56:51,910 --> 01:56:48,199 very swift and 2750 01:56:53,669 --> 01:56:51,920 well-coordinated globalist revolution 2751 01:56:55,030 --> 01:56:53,679 and i you know and the fact is that 2752 01:56:58,149 --> 01:56:55,040 there are a lot of people who support 2753 01:56:59,510 --> 01:56:58,159 this and you know they they're they're 2754 01:57:02,709 --> 01:56:59,520 believers 2755 01:57:04,070 --> 01:57:02,719 don't even know that it's actually a 2756 01:57:05,430 --> 01:57:04,080 revolution but they feel it's a 2757 01:57:07,109 --> 01:57:05,440 revolution they 2758 01:57:08,390 --> 01:57:07,119 they're jumping on they want it they 2759 01:57:10,070 --> 01:57:08,400 want the 2760 01:57:11,589 --> 01:57:10,080 this well we don't call it a new world 2761 01:57:13,030 --> 01:57:11,599 order now now we call it what global 2762 01:57:15,669 --> 01:57:13,040 governance i guess you can't say new 2763 01:57:18,390 --> 01:57:15,679 world order or one world government i 2764 01:57:19,510 --> 01:57:18,400 used to say that uh but the idea is the 2765 01:57:21,430 --> 01:57:19,520 same 2766 01:57:23,430 --> 01:57:21,440 someone on my website i mean wrote to me 2767 01:57:25,350 --> 01:57:23,440 and it's very upfront about it he says 2768 01:57:26,550 --> 01:57:25,360 like look you know i know you don't like 2769 01:57:28,790 --> 01:57:26,560 klaus schwab and you don't like the 2770 01:57:30,310 --> 01:57:28,800 davos people and i don't but he said 2771 01:57:32,390 --> 01:57:30,320 look if if there's going to be a 2772 01:57:35,270 --> 01:57:32,400 disclosure and let's say there's aliens 2773 01:57:37,189 --> 01:57:35,280 and they want to treat with a us 2774 01:57:38,390 --> 01:57:37,199 excuse me with like with human beings 2775 01:57:40,709 --> 01:57:38,400 how would they do it would they they're 2776 01:57:42,310 --> 01:57:40,719 going to have a 200 countries 2777 01:57:44,470 --> 01:57:42,320 if they deal with the us won't russia 2778 01:57:45,990 --> 01:57:44,480 get mad or won't should i get mad or how 2779 01:57:48,229 --> 01:57:46,000 will they do it maybe it'll be easier to 2780 01:57:49,990 --> 01:57:48,239 deal with klaus schwab 2781 01:57:51,350 --> 01:57:50,000 and they he gave me this question very 2782 01:57:52,870 --> 01:57:51,360 seriously and 2783 01:57:56,070 --> 01:57:52,880 and you know the thing is when you're 2784 01:57:57,750 --> 01:57:56,080 dealing with globalization 2785 01:57:59,669 --> 01:57:57,760 we live in a globalized world like 2786 01:58:01,430 --> 01:57:59,679 there's no getting out of it all right 2787 01:58:03,430 --> 01:58:01,440 we're you and i were on 2788 01:58:05,589 --> 01:58:03,440 skype here doing a really great 2789 01:58:07,750 --> 01:58:05,599 interview across the country couldn't do 2790 01:58:09,189 --> 01:58:07,760 this without a globalized system 2791 01:58:10,790 --> 01:58:09,199 wouldn't be possible we'd do 2792 01:58:12,870 --> 01:58:10,800 international calls all the time like 2793 01:58:14,550 --> 01:58:12,880 all a whole system is designed that way 2794 01:58:16,310 --> 01:58:14,560 it's it's our world 2795 01:58:17,589 --> 01:58:16,320 so you need it to some extent but the 2796 01:58:20,149 --> 01:58:17,599 question is 2797 01:58:23,350 --> 01:58:20,159 do you need it to the extent that you're 2798 01:58:25,830 --> 01:58:23,360 creating a centralized system now that 2799 01:58:26,950 --> 01:58:25,840 is micromanaging the global economy that 2800 01:58:29,510 --> 01:58:26,960 is putting 2801 01:58:31,990 --> 01:58:29,520 millions and millions of people out of 2802 01:58:34,470 --> 01:58:32,000 work due to automation 2803 01:58:38,149 --> 01:58:34,480 and um algorithms that are now 2804 01:58:40,550 --> 01:58:38,159 controlling your mind through through um 2805 01:58:41,990 --> 01:58:40,560 you know controlling the internet and do 2806 01:58:43,430 --> 01:58:42,000 we want that 2807 01:58:44,870 --> 01:58:43,440 do we want to turn our world into one 2808 01:58:47,430 --> 01:58:44,880 big ant hill 2809 01:58:49,830 --> 01:58:47,440 like no i don't want that 2810 01:58:51,270 --> 01:58:49,840 so the question is how do how do you 2811 01:58:54,310 --> 01:58:51,280 how do you 2812 01:58:56,149 --> 01:58:54,320 walk that line be like we want a global 2813 01:58:58,310 --> 01:58:56,159 system to some extent but i don't want 2814 01:59:00,790 --> 01:58:58,320 to go all the way in so that i lose the 2815 01:59:02,629 --> 01:59:00,800 last shred of any kind of autonomy that 2816 01:59:04,870 --> 01:59:02,639 i have as a citizen of the united states 2817 01:59:07,030 --> 01:59:04,880 of america first of all and secondarily 2818 01:59:08,470 --> 01:59:07,040 just as a sovereign human being that's 2819 01:59:10,149 --> 01:59:08,480 got my own ideas like i don't want to 2820 01:59:11,830 --> 01:59:10,159 give that up and i think that we're 2821 01:59:13,990 --> 01:59:11,840 moving in a world where we're going to 2822 01:59:16,229 --> 01:59:14,000 be giving that up there because one of 2823 01:59:18,629 --> 01:59:16,239 the things that we're seeing transformed 2824 01:59:20,950 --> 01:59:18,639 is the global culture 2825 01:59:22,629 --> 01:59:20,960 like and we're moving away don't make no 2826 01:59:25,669 --> 01:59:22,639 mistake we're moving away from a culture 2827 01:59:27,669 --> 01:59:25,679 of individual sovereignty and individual 2828 01:59:29,109 --> 01:59:27,679 action we're moving away from that 2829 01:59:31,430 --> 01:59:29,119 that's obvious 2830 01:59:33,189 --> 01:59:31,440 we're moving away from um and you know 2831 01:59:35,270 --> 01:59:33,199 god forbid that you believe in that you 2832 01:59:36,950 --> 01:59:35,280 distrust your government now 2833 01:59:39,510 --> 01:59:36,960 can't even do that 2834 01:59:41,350 --> 01:59:39,520 you can't even distrust you can't even 2835 01:59:42,870 --> 01:59:41,360 question your government's 2836 01:59:45,030 --> 01:59:42,880 motives anymore 2837 01:59:47,669 --> 01:59:45,040 because that's a conspiracy theory yeah 2838 01:59:48,950 --> 01:59:47,679 which was the exact opposite of the very 2839 01:59:53,030 --> 01:59:48,960 foundation of 2840 01:59:57,910 --> 01:59:55,270 which was that accountability 2841 01:59:58,870 --> 01:59:57,920 and a government of and for the people 2842 02:00:00,709 --> 01:59:58,880 but 2843 02:00:04,709 --> 02:00:00,719 check this out 2844 02:00:07,589 --> 02:00:04,719 last week i reported on this and 2845 02:00:08,550 --> 02:00:07,599 crickets not only from the rest of the 2846 02:00:10,070 --> 02:00:08,560 media 2847 02:00:10,830 --> 02:00:10,080 but even from 2848 02:00:17,910 --> 02:00:10,840 this 2849 02:00:19,589 --> 02:00:17,920 last week 2850 02:00:21,430 --> 02:00:19,599 russia 2851 02:00:24,790 --> 02:00:21,440 shut down 2852 02:00:26,390 --> 02:00:24,800 the tor network and the dark web 2853 02:00:27,669 --> 02:00:26,400 i didn't know that dad thank you for 2854 02:00:30,790 --> 02:00:27,679 telling me 2855 02:00:31,750 --> 02:00:30,800 write that down go and read 2856 02:00:38,229 --> 02:00:31,760 and 2857 02:00:40,709 --> 02:00:38,239 fine but 2858 02:00:42,310 --> 02:00:40,719 no media reported this no and that's 2859 02:00:43,750 --> 02:00:42,320 important 2860 02:00:45,830 --> 02:00:43,760 shut down 2861 02:00:47,990 --> 02:00:45,840 you know i um 2862 02:00:50,070 --> 02:00:48,000 i am not one of these reflexive russia 2863 02:00:52,790 --> 02:00:50,080 bad people not earl never have been i'm 2864 02:00:54,629 --> 02:00:52,800 not a reflexive putin bad person either 2865 02:00:56,390 --> 02:00:54,639 but that doesn't mean that they're not 2866 02:00:57,830 --> 02:00:56,400 trying to do the exact same things that 2867 02:00:59,350 --> 02:00:57,840 all the rest of the world is doing which 2868 02:01:01,910 --> 02:00:59,360 is consolidating power over the 2869 02:01:03,750 --> 02:01:01,920 population absolutely they're doing that 2870 02:01:05,910 --> 02:01:03,760 the chinese are doing it we know the 2871 02:01:07,189 --> 02:01:05,920 russians are doing it and the entire 2872 02:01:09,350 --> 02:01:07,199 western 2873 02:01:12,310 --> 02:01:09,360 hegemonic block is doing it as qui as 2874 02:01:13,430 --> 02:01:12,320 well like everyone's doing it there 2875 02:01:18,550 --> 02:01:13,440 you know 2876 02:01:23,589 --> 02:01:18,560 levels of control of the internet 2877 02:01:25,109 --> 02:01:23,599 that are at the direct uh control of 2878 02:01:27,510 --> 02:01:25,119 washington dc 2879 02:01:29,350 --> 02:01:27,520 and it's at certain levels right you 2880 02:01:31,350 --> 02:01:29,360 know okay all right 2881 02:01:33,669 --> 02:01:31,360 the dark web 2882 02:01:36,950 --> 02:01:33,679 i'm not saying it's good or bad that's 2883 02:01:38,229 --> 02:01:36,960 not what i'm but the the ability to shut 2884 02:01:41,750 --> 02:01:38,239 it off 2885 02:01:45,030 --> 02:01:41,760 is extraordinary and to go and to do it 2886 02:01:46,950 --> 02:01:45,040 and then to publicly state it as 2887 02:01:48,709 --> 02:01:46,960 big of a deal as that is 2888 02:01:51,430 --> 02:01:48,719 no media covered it 2889 02:01:52,950 --> 02:01:51,440 that's amazing that's like you know and 2890 02:01:54,709 --> 02:01:52,960 they hate russia that you think they 2891 02:01:56,149 --> 02:01:54,719 would love to do it but here's i'll bet 2892 02:01:58,470 --> 02:01:56,159 you i know why 2893 02:02:00,629 --> 02:01:58,480 they're not going to cover it because 2894 02:02:02,470 --> 02:02:00,639 it's going to happen here yeah that's my 2895 02:02:04,149 --> 02:02:02,480 point that's it yeah they're not saying 2896 02:02:06,550 --> 02:02:04,159 the thing is it's going to happen here 2897 02:02:07,990 --> 02:02:06,560 that's exactly and and and this is what 2898 02:02:09,030 --> 02:02:08,000 you do this one first okay we'll give 2899 02:02:10,390 --> 02:02:09,040 him this one 2900 02:02:14,070 --> 02:02:10,400 russia 2901 02:02:16,629 --> 02:02:14,080 was 10 2902 02:02:18,790 --> 02:02:16,639 of dark web traffic 2903 02:02:21,510 --> 02:02:18,800 right now you were serious yeah are we 2904 02:02:24,229 --> 02:02:21,520 all global yeah yeah yeah 10 was in 2905 02:02:27,510 --> 02:02:24,239 russia yeah 10 was within russia so you 2906 02:02:30,470 --> 02:02:27,520 would think that even those users 2907 02:02:33,350 --> 02:02:30,480 would go and speak up you know it's it's 2908 02:02:35,669 --> 02:02:33,360 so funny the silence of it's an internet 2909 02:02:37,350 --> 02:02:35,679 kill switch right yeah right there at 2910 02:02:39,350 --> 02:02:37,360 100 2911 02:02:41,350 --> 02:02:39,360 let's take our break let's get this in 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black 3015 02:07:49,010 --> 02:07:42,709 this is fade to black with jimmy church 3016 02:08:00,709 --> 02:07:59,109 [Music] 3017 02:08:03,350 --> 02:08:00,719 welcome back fade to black i'm your host 3018 02:08:05,510 --> 02:08:03,360 jimmy church tonight richard dolan 3019 02:08:07,750 --> 02:08:05,520 and after this tonight richard's going 3020 02:08:09,430 --> 02:08:07,760 to get a cup of coffee 3021 02:08:12,709 --> 02:08:09,440 and roll straight over to coast to coast 3022 02:08:15,510 --> 02:08:13,510 oh 3023 02:08:17,589 --> 02:08:15,520 man i didn't mean for it to work out 3024 02:08:19,910 --> 02:08:17,599 like that it just happened yeah that's 3025 02:08:21,589 --> 02:08:19,920 uh that's a long night man and at least 3026 02:08:24,390 --> 02:08:21,599 you're getting warmed up 3027 02:08:26,550 --> 02:08:24,400 and uh hopefully george is listening to 3028 02:08:29,189 --> 02:08:26,560 this and and you'll just get the same 3029 02:08:31,030 --> 02:08:29,199 questions and you'll be able to just go 3030 02:08:32,229 --> 02:08:31,040 on uh autopilot 3031 02:08:34,550 --> 02:08:32,239 and uh 3032 02:08:37,189 --> 02:08:34,560 that's a that's a long night uh but 3033 02:08:39,510 --> 02:08:37,199 everybody uh after the show tonight head 3034 02:08:41,990 --> 02:08:39,520 over to coast to coast and and and stay 3035 02:08:43,270 --> 02:08:42,000 with all things richard it's uh 3036 02:08:44,069 --> 02:08:43,280 it's a cool night 3037 02:08:46,069 --> 02:08:44,079 um 3038 02:08:48,870 --> 02:08:46,079 i wanted to ask you this 3039 02:08:50,870 --> 02:08:48,880 and i was watching uh the chat room and 3040 02:08:52,229 --> 02:08:50,880 and some of the questions 3041 02:08:55,350 --> 02:08:52,239 uh 3042 02:08:57,189 --> 02:08:55,360 the audience and and one of them was 3043 02:08:58,149 --> 02:08:57,199 this i think it's i'm gonna paraphrase 3044 02:09:01,910 --> 02:08:58,159 here 3045 02:09:03,189 --> 02:09:01,920 um how important is it for this ufo 3046 02:09:05,669 --> 02:09:03,199 community 3047 02:09:07,910 --> 02:09:05,679 to not relax 3048 02:09:09,430 --> 02:09:07,920 right to sit on their hands now that it 3049 02:09:11,830 --> 02:09:09,440 seems like 3050 02:09:12,870 --> 02:09:11,840 things are moving forward and and you 3051 02:09:13,589 --> 02:09:12,880 can do 3052 02:09:18,790 --> 02:09:13,599 is 3053 02:09:20,950 --> 02:09:18,800 the foot on the neck of the man 3054 02:09:22,069 --> 02:09:20,960 what a great question 3055 02:09:23,750 --> 02:09:22,079 hey i don't know if you're running your 3056 02:09:25,990 --> 02:09:23,760 audio i'm hearing my echo again i may 3057 02:09:27,750 --> 02:09:26,000 take my headphones off but if you can no 3058 02:09:30,950 --> 02:09:27,760 you sound i'm just gonna let you know 3059 02:09:33,830 --> 02:09:30,960 you sound great goody 3060 02:09:36,550 --> 02:09:33,840 oh and it just got fixed 3061 02:09:38,310 --> 02:09:36,560 so i think that's a great question and i 3062 02:09:39,830 --> 02:09:38,320 fully agree with the sentiment like we 3063 02:09:41,910 --> 02:09:39,840 it is 3064 02:09:43,910 --> 02:09:41,920 it would be a bad thing for people to be 3065 02:09:47,589 --> 02:09:43,920 complacent right now 3066 02:09:53,589 --> 02:09:50,550 i i just think look any positive change 3067 02:09:54,950 --> 02:09:53,599 is only going to happen if the people 3068 02:09:57,830 --> 02:09:54,960 that's us 3069 02:09:58,830 --> 02:09:57,840 continue to make as much noise as we can 3070 02:10:01,750 --> 02:09:58,840 and keep 3071 02:10:04,069 --> 02:10:01,760 a a sophisticated adult level 3072 02:10:06,790 --> 02:10:04,079 conversation going on this subject that 3073 02:10:09,109 --> 02:10:06,800 does not get dominated by the pentagon 3074 02:10:12,149 --> 02:10:09,119 like i you don't we don't want 3075 02:10:16,550 --> 02:10:12,159 uh the military industrial 3076 02:10:18,550 --> 02:10:16,560 uh complex to be controlling this debate 3077 02:10:19,990 --> 02:10:18,560 we i don't you know that doesn't mean 3078 02:10:21,109 --> 02:10:20,000 that the navy doesn't have good people 3079 02:10:22,870 --> 02:10:21,119 in it that 3080 02:10:24,229 --> 02:10:22,880 believe in getting this information out 3081 02:10:25,270 --> 02:10:24,239 i know they do 3082 02:10:28,629 --> 02:10:25,280 but 3083 02:10:31,270 --> 02:10:28,639 no i would not ever want to trust the 3084 02:10:32,790 --> 02:10:31,280 washington bureaucracy and that includes 3085 02:10:34,149 --> 02:10:32,800 the political leaders and the political 3086 02:10:37,669 --> 02:10:34,159 establishment 3087 02:10:39,109 --> 02:10:37,679 to uh do this without massive citizen 3088 02:10:41,589 --> 02:10:39,119 oversight 3089 02:10:43,589 --> 02:10:41,599 people need to be engaged in this 3090 02:10:44,790 --> 02:10:43,599 where as i've been saying you know for a 3091 02:10:46,870 --> 02:10:44,800 while now we're in the middle of a 3092 02:10:49,109 --> 02:10:46,880 global revolution 3093 02:10:52,709 --> 02:10:49,119 everything is up for grabs right now and 3094 02:10:55,030 --> 02:10:52,719 and a lot of things can go in a bad way 3095 02:10:57,510 --> 02:10:55,040 for us if we are not 3096 02:10:58,790 --> 02:10:57,520 vigilant in protecting our rights first 3097 02:11:01,270 --> 02:10:58,800 of all 3098 02:11:03,430 --> 02:11:01,280 and in in 3099 02:11:05,030 --> 02:11:03,440 not being afraid to speak up 3100 02:11:07,910 --> 02:11:05,040 and i'm not just talking about uap and 3101 02:11:09,350 --> 02:11:07,920 ufos but yes absolutely with ufos but 3102 02:11:12,310 --> 02:11:09,360 with everything 3103 02:11:13,669 --> 02:11:12,320 there's a lot at stake now and 3104 02:11:15,910 --> 02:11:13,679 um 3105 02:11:17,910 --> 02:11:15,920 and and the way this 3106 02:11:19,830 --> 02:11:17,920 battle ends up the current 3107 02:11:21,910 --> 02:11:19,840 struggles that we are in dealing with 3108 02:11:23,510 --> 02:11:21,920 our fundamental freedoms 3109 02:11:24,470 --> 02:11:23,520 could determine 3110 02:11:27,189 --> 02:11:24,480 the next 3111 02:11:29,589 --> 02:11:27,199 several generations or more of 3112 02:11:31,350 --> 02:11:29,599 of human society so i think what's going 3113 02:11:33,750 --> 02:11:31,360 on now is really going to be very very 3114 02:11:35,510 --> 02:11:33,760 important for many years to come and 3115 02:11:38,629 --> 02:11:35,520 people have got to be brave they've got 3116 02:11:39,750 --> 02:11:38,639 to speak up and we've got to be 3117 02:11:41,910 --> 02:11:39,760 willing 3118 02:11:44,229 --> 02:11:41,920 to be um 3119 02:11:47,510 --> 02:11:44,239 it's difficult because you know 3120 02:11:49,990 --> 02:11:47,520 people have lives to live and 3121 02:11:51,669 --> 02:11:50,000 but but um 3122 02:11:53,270 --> 02:11:51,679 yeah we need to be on top of this as 3123 02:11:54,149 --> 02:11:53,280 best we can 3124 02:11:55,350 --> 02:11:54,159 say that 3125 02:11:58,470 --> 02:11:55,360 it's it's 3126 02:11:59,669 --> 02:11:58,480 it's our job 3127 02:12:01,109 --> 02:11:59,679 us 3128 02:12:04,709 --> 02:12:01,119 to 3129 02:12:07,910 --> 02:12:04,719 force the information out of 3130 02:12:10,470 --> 02:12:07,920 the man the man is not our friend the 3131 02:12:13,270 --> 02:12:10,480 man is not going to 3132 02:12:15,669 --> 02:12:13,280 just give it up that's not going to 3133 02:12:18,229 --> 02:12:15,679 happen it is our job 3134 02:12:19,189 --> 02:12:18,239 to get the information that belongs to 3135 02:12:21,350 --> 02:12:19,199 us 3136 02:12:23,830 --> 02:12:21,360 right it belongs to this is it's our 3137 02:12:27,589 --> 02:12:23,840 it's not their information 3138 02:12:30,390 --> 02:12:27,599 it's our information and we can't sit on 3139 02:12:33,510 --> 02:12:30,400 our hands and we can't expect 3140 02:12:35,030 --> 02:12:33,520 them to just voluntarily step up and 3141 02:12:36,310 --> 02:12:35,040 give it to us it's not going to happen 3142 02:12:38,229 --> 02:12:36,320 that way is it 3143 02:12:39,830 --> 02:12:38,239 no no and and um 3144 02:12:41,669 --> 02:12:39,840 what we actually really need to fight 3145 02:12:43,109 --> 02:12:41,679 for i think fundamentally is the 3146 02:12:46,229 --> 02:12:43,119 preservation 3147 02:12:49,589 --> 02:12:46,239 of our basic rights that is the right to 3148 02:12:51,669 --> 02:12:49,599 speak freely uh 3149 02:12:54,709 --> 02:12:51,679 probably first and foremost 3150 02:12:55,750 --> 02:12:54,719 and the right to assemble freely should 3151 02:13:00,950 --> 02:12:55,760 we have 3152 02:13:03,830 --> 02:13:00,960 a ufo a uap 3153 02:13:05,189 --> 02:13:03,840 march should we assemble 3154 02:13:08,069 --> 02:13:05,199 you know at 3155 02:13:09,750 --> 02:13:08,079 the at the lincoln memorial should we 3156 02:13:12,229 --> 02:13:09,760 take things 3157 02:13:14,709 --> 02:13:12,239 uh to the next level is that where 3158 02:13:18,629 --> 02:13:14,719 everything seems to happen 3159 02:13:20,790 --> 02:13:18,639 right where we we we force it we 3160 02:13:23,189 --> 02:13:20,800 we present this 3161 02:13:25,030 --> 02:13:23,199 uh uh to washington 3162 02:13:27,990 --> 02:13:25,040 is that there's been many attempts uh 3163 02:13:29,109 --> 02:13:28,000 over the last 20 30 years to do exactly 3164 02:13:32,870 --> 02:13:29,119 that 3165 02:13:34,950 --> 02:13:32,880 maybe the time wasn't right uh 30 years 3166 02:13:37,750 --> 02:13:34,960 ago there was a group called operation 3167 02:13:39,990 --> 02:13:37,760 right to know and only only ufo geeks 3168 02:13:42,950 --> 02:13:40,000 like us probably nerds know about it but 3169 02:13:44,390 --> 02:13:42,960 they 30 years ago they organized rallies 3170 02:13:46,870 --> 02:13:44,400 in in front of the white house 3171 02:13:49,990 --> 02:13:46,880 uh i think like 20 people were there 3172 02:13:52,229 --> 02:13:50,000 with pickets and ufo secrecy uh this has 3173 02:13:54,709 --> 02:13:52,239 been a long-standing idea and then you 3174 02:13:56,629 --> 02:13:54,719 know you get uh stephen greer's press 3175 02:14:00,069 --> 02:13:56,639 conference in 2001 and you get steve 3176 02:14:02,229 --> 02:14:00,079 bassett's ongoing x conferences in all 3177 02:14:03,750 --> 02:14:02,239 in the washington dc area that happened 3178 02:14:06,069 --> 02:14:03,760 throughout the whole first decade of the 3179 02:14:08,790 --> 02:14:06,079 21st century and culminating in the 3180 02:14:10,629 --> 02:14:08,800 citizens hearing on disclosure which uh 3181 02:14:13,750 --> 02:14:10,639 you know a lot of us were part of i was 3182 02:14:16,149 --> 02:14:13,760 part of in 2013 and the ongoing press 3183 02:14:18,950 --> 02:14:16,159 conferences at the national press club 3184 02:14:20,790 --> 02:14:18,960 um involving you know people like robert 3185 02:14:23,109 --> 02:14:20,800 hastings and robert salas and leslie 3186 02:14:25,109 --> 02:14:23,119 kane and james fox and many others 3187 02:14:28,069 --> 02:14:25,119 have been involved like there's always 3188 02:14:31,109 --> 02:14:28,079 been this attempt to go to dc 3189 02:14:33,430 --> 02:14:31,119 to engage in the washington political 3190 02:14:34,870 --> 02:14:33,440 establishment so it's not it's not an a 3191 02:14:37,669 --> 02:14:34,880 new idea 3192 02:14:40,310 --> 02:14:37,679 but i do think yes it's always a good 3193 02:14:44,149 --> 02:14:40,320 idea to re to think through this in a 3194 02:14:45,830 --> 02:14:44,159 fresh way yes so would a march 3195 02:14:47,910 --> 02:14:45,840 be a good thing well it depends on how 3196 02:14:48,950 --> 02:14:47,920 many people you get and and keep in mind 3197 02:14:50,709 --> 02:14:48,960 something and i don't want to be 3198 02:14:52,310 --> 02:14:50,719 defeatist here but just keep in mind 3199 02:14:54,629 --> 02:14:52,320 there are massive 3200 02:14:55,669 --> 02:14:54,639 massive protests held around the world 3201 02:14:56,709 --> 02:14:55,679 every day 3202 02:14:58,870 --> 02:14:56,719 right now 3203 02:14:59,830 --> 02:14:58,880 all against the lockdowns primarily and 3204 02:15:02,149 --> 02:14:59,840 they get 3205 02:15:04,470 --> 02:15:02,159 zero coverage in the western media 3206 02:15:07,109 --> 02:15:04,480 they get ignored so there's there's 3207 02:15:08,950 --> 02:15:07,119 actually a lot of public citizen action 3208 02:15:11,109 --> 02:15:08,960 going on all the time 3209 02:15:13,830 --> 02:15:11,119 and we're dealing you know we don't have 3210 02:15:15,430 --> 02:15:13,840 a genuine media anymore 3211 02:15:19,750 --> 02:15:15,440 you're the media 3212 02:15:21,910 --> 02:15:19,760 jimmy there's no the major media 3213 02:15:23,990 --> 02:15:21,920 that's that is nothing other than a 3214 02:15:26,709 --> 02:15:24,000 propaganda cheerleading section for the 3215 02:15:28,629 --> 02:15:26,719 globalist revolution that's it and so if 3216 02:15:30,069 --> 02:15:28,639 you are if you find yourself on the 3217 02:15:32,870 --> 02:15:30,079 outside of that if you don't believe in 3218 02:15:34,550 --> 02:15:32,880 the globalist revolution guess what you 3219 02:15:36,390 --> 02:15:34,560 get pushed to the side like you you 3220 02:15:38,310 --> 02:15:36,400 don't become part of a conversation 3221 02:15:40,870 --> 02:15:38,320 of their conversation it doesn't mean 3222 02:15:42,629 --> 02:15:40,880 that you go away it just means 3223 02:15:43,510 --> 02:15:42,639 you're not part of their 3224 02:15:45,109 --> 02:15:43,520 uh 3225 02:15:46,629 --> 02:15:45,119 so they still dominate the power 3226 02:15:48,470 --> 02:15:46,639 structure so 3227 02:15:51,510 --> 02:15:48,480 that's the problem with that so we could 3228 02:15:53,990 --> 02:15:51,520 do a march and it doesn't 3229 02:15:56,310 --> 02:15:54,000 like it could be a great idea actually 3230 02:15:57,830 --> 02:15:56,320 it just depends on how 3231 02:15:59,669 --> 02:15:57,840 i guess how well it's organized how many 3232 02:16:00,470 --> 02:15:59,679 people you can get to be there 3233 02:16:03,830 --> 02:16:00,480 and 3234 02:16:06,149 --> 02:16:03,840 can we create or can a good record of it 3235 02:16:08,310 --> 02:16:06,159 be created for posterity because that's 3236 02:16:10,229 --> 02:16:08,320 going to be a big part of it as well 3237 02:16:12,709 --> 02:16:10,239 why do you think that 3238 02:16:13,990 --> 02:16:12,719 cbs 60 minutes 3239 02:16:17,430 --> 02:16:14,000 showtime 3240 02:16:19,109 --> 02:16:17,440 the ufo jj abrams documentary tucker 3241 02:16:23,270 --> 02:16:19,119 carlson fox 3242 02:16:25,350 --> 02:16:23,280 have all chosen uh to to cover this 3243 02:16:26,790 --> 02:16:25,360 subject this year 3244 02:16:29,430 --> 02:16:26,800 well they cover it in different ways so 3245 02:16:33,030 --> 02:16:29,440 like jj abrams my complaint about that 3246 02:16:35,270 --> 02:16:33,040 ufo series that he did is that it almost 3247 02:16:37,190 --> 02:16:35,280 i almost felt like i got suckered by 3248 02:16:39,349 --> 02:16:37,200 that thing i felt like i got sucker 3249 02:16:40,309 --> 02:16:39,359 punched by it he starts you off by 3250 02:16:43,030 --> 02:16:40,319 saying 3251 02:16:44,629 --> 02:16:43,040 hey ufos are real you saw ufo you're not 3252 02:16:46,389 --> 02:16:44,639 crazy you actually saw one and we're 3253 02:16:48,309 --> 02:16:46,399 thinking wow that's awesome 3254 02:16:50,469 --> 02:16:48,319 and he goes on and says yeah and there 3255 02:16:52,950 --> 02:16:50,479 is a cover-up there's been lies about it 3256 02:16:54,790 --> 02:16:52,960 you've been lied to so he brings you in 3257 02:16:56,709 --> 02:16:54,800 making you think wow and then what does 3258 02:16:58,790 --> 02:16:56,719 he do he says 3259 02:17:00,870 --> 02:16:58,800 yeah they're all man-made and there's no 3260 02:17:03,270 --> 02:17:00,880 aliens and there's no abductions 3261 02:17:06,230 --> 02:17:03,280 it's like screw you man like you do that 3262 02:17:09,030 --> 02:17:06,240 to us what an insult 3263 02:17:11,030 --> 02:17:09,040 and you know what that's going to be 3264 02:17:13,349 --> 02:17:11,040 i predict that's going to be the new 3265 02:17:15,509 --> 02:17:13,359 like what you're supposed to believe 3266 02:17:18,709 --> 02:17:15,519 this is where i think the establishment 3267 02:17:21,030 --> 02:17:18,719 wants to take this ufo subject now other 3268 02:17:23,030 --> 02:17:21,040 other media people i listen to carlson 3269 02:17:25,030 --> 02:17:23,040 tucker carlson on this and 3270 02:17:27,509 --> 02:17:25,040 of the major 3271 02:17:29,750 --> 02:17:27,519 media people who touch this subject he's 3272 02:17:32,629 --> 02:17:29,760 by far the best 3273 02:17:35,669 --> 02:17:32,639 i i think by far like all the mainstream 3274 02:17:37,669 --> 02:17:35,679 high level national media figures 3275 02:17:40,070 --> 02:17:37,679 like he's actually 3276 02:17:41,270 --> 02:17:40,080 he clearly believes in ufos he's made it 3277 02:17:43,990 --> 02:17:41,280 obvious 3278 02:17:45,429 --> 02:17:44,000 he's had some of the best i mean 3279 02:17:47,110 --> 02:17:45,439 for mainstream 3280 02:17:48,309 --> 02:17:47,120 uh interviews 3281 02:17:49,830 --> 02:17:48,319 that have been out there i think his 3282 02:17:51,429 --> 02:17:49,840 interview with elizondo a couple of 3283 02:17:52,790 --> 02:17:51,439 years ago still the best one that was 3284 02:17:55,190 --> 02:17:52,800 ever done 3285 02:17:57,349 --> 02:17:55,200 so he does good work as far as you can 3286 02:18:00,469 --> 02:17:57,359 do it in the mainstream 3287 02:18:04,389 --> 02:18:00,479 um a lot of the others you know 3288 02:18:07,910 --> 02:18:04,399 60 minutes 60 minutes yeah uh was was 3289 02:18:11,589 --> 02:18:07,920 another moment this year uh that was an 3290 02:18:14,870 --> 02:18:11,599 extraordinary step to have that show 3291 02:18:17,349 --> 02:18:14,880 cover this subject and and it was great 3292 02:18:19,429 --> 02:18:17,359 but i have to always step back and ask 3293 02:18:23,669 --> 02:18:19,439 why 3294 02:18:25,030 --> 02:18:23,679 there another 3295 02:18:27,030 --> 02:18:25,040 you know puppet master pulling the 3296 02:18:28,709 --> 02:18:27,040 strings to make sure that this kind of 3297 02:18:30,469 --> 02:18:28,719 stuff happens again going back to 3298 02:18:32,389 --> 02:18:30,479 showtime and how they don't have puppet 3299 02:18:34,709 --> 02:18:32,399 masters yeah i do 3300 02:18:36,790 --> 02:18:34,719 i and i think um there are marching 3301 02:18:39,190 --> 02:18:36,800 orders that come from somewhere 3302 02:18:39,990 --> 02:18:39,200 now with it it doesn't mean that it's 3303 02:18:41,910 --> 02:18:40,000 like 3304 02:18:43,910 --> 02:18:41,920 uh the cigarette smoking man and the 3305 02:18:44,870 --> 02:18:43,920 x-files is likes behind and says okay 3306 02:18:48,389 --> 02:18:44,880 you're gonna say this you're gonna do 3307 02:18:50,950 --> 02:18:48,399 this i don't think it's quite that crass 3308 02:18:53,030 --> 02:18:50,960 but i do think like you know we've we've 3309 02:18:55,190 --> 02:18:53,040 dealt with mainstream media people i've 3310 02:18:58,070 --> 02:18:55,200 talked to them you've talked to them uh 3311 02:18:59,830 --> 02:18:58,080 there are there are producers of these 3312 02:19:01,750 --> 02:18:59,840 documentaries and these 3313 02:19:03,110 --> 02:19:01,760 uh specials that i think they're 3314 02:19:05,110 --> 02:19:03,120 genuinely 3315 02:19:07,910 --> 02:19:05,120 interested in covering the subject 3316 02:19:09,349 --> 02:19:07,920 usually find they know nothing about it 3317 02:19:11,669 --> 02:19:09,359 like they're they're at the beginning of 3318 02:19:13,190 --> 02:19:11,679 a learning curve so that's kind of scary 3319 02:19:15,110 --> 02:19:13,200 just think about it 3320 02:19:16,629 --> 02:19:15,120 they really just don't know the subject 3321 02:19:18,070 --> 02:19:16,639 but 3322 02:19:19,750 --> 02:19:18,080 uh 3323 02:19:22,309 --> 02:19:19,760 yes i do think that there's a certain 3324 02:19:25,509 --> 02:19:22,319 amount of damage control and 3325 02:19:27,270 --> 02:19:25,519 and population control 3326 02:19:29,030 --> 02:19:27,280 absolutely i think that that's the case 3327 02:19:31,110 --> 02:19:29,040 to to a lot of these 3328 02:19:32,950 --> 02:19:31,120 uh what would be more interesting is to 3329 02:19:35,110 --> 02:19:32,960 ask and i don't have the answer here is 3330 02:19:37,990 --> 02:19:35,120 to what extent there is 3331 02:19:40,549 --> 02:19:38,000 um genuine 3332 02:19:41,990 --> 02:19:40,559 resistance within that environment 3333 02:19:44,790 --> 02:19:42,000 within the mainstream because i don't 3334 02:19:46,790 --> 02:19:44,800 think it's totally monolithic 3335 02:19:48,150 --> 02:19:46,800 i do think that there are 3336 02:19:49,349 --> 02:19:48,160 there's a little bit of wiggle room in 3337 02:19:51,270 --> 02:19:49,359 there 3338 02:19:53,429 --> 02:19:51,280 i think by and large it's it's a very 3339 02:19:55,990 --> 02:19:53,439 effective control mechanism basically 3340 02:19:58,870 --> 02:19:56,000 public mind control yes 3341 02:20:01,510 --> 02:19:58,880 and uh but i i do 3342 02:20:04,150 --> 02:20:01,520 i mean i get this sense and i'm an 3343 02:20:06,309 --> 02:20:04,160 outsider to that system but i do get a 3344 02:20:07,910 --> 02:20:06,319 sense that there are some people who are 3345 02:20:08,630 --> 02:20:07,920 trying to push the envelope a little bit 3346 02:20:10,710 --> 02:20:08,640 so 3347 02:20:12,950 --> 02:20:10,720 that would be good how far can they push 3348 02:20:14,950 --> 02:20:12,960 the envelope well that's a good question 3349 02:20:16,389 --> 02:20:14,960 they obviously can't go 3350 02:20:17,750 --> 02:20:16,399 as far as i would like them to go or 3351 02:20:19,349 --> 02:20:17,760 that you would like them to go there 3352 02:20:21,030 --> 02:20:19,359 because they're not doing it 3353 02:20:22,950 --> 02:20:21,040 like it's just a matter of asking 3354 02:20:25,990 --> 02:20:22,960 logical questions here 3355 02:20:27,510 --> 02:20:26,000 we've got a 75 plus year long cover-up 3356 02:20:28,870 --> 02:20:27,520 for god's sake 3357 02:20:31,190 --> 02:20:28,880 75 years 3358 02:20:33,270 --> 02:20:31,200 all right there's been a lot of 3359 02:20:35,670 --> 02:20:33,280 opportunity here for information to be 3360 02:20:37,510 --> 02:20:35,680 gathered i documented it as well as i 3361 02:20:40,070 --> 02:20:37,520 could in my two volumes of history and 3362 02:20:42,230 --> 02:20:40,080 my other books as well like there's a 3363 02:20:44,309 --> 02:20:42,240 very significant paper trail of 3364 02:20:46,389 --> 02:20:44,319 declassified united states government 3365 02:20:48,870 --> 02:20:46,399 military documents that prove they don't 3366 02:20:51,030 --> 02:20:48,880 hint they don't suggest they prove that 3367 02:20:53,670 --> 02:20:51,040 there has been high level 3368 02:20:55,830 --> 02:20:53,680 concern and interests over these ufos 3369 02:20:57,429 --> 02:20:55,840 including massive numbers of military 3370 02:20:59,429 --> 02:20:57,439 engagements with these objects going 3371 02:21:01,590 --> 02:20:59,439 back to the 1940s 3372 02:21:03,670 --> 02:21:01,600 is the next is so they know that there's 3373 02:21:07,510 --> 02:21:03,680 something important going on is the next 3374 02:21:11,750 --> 02:21:07,520 step uh something that surfaces either 3375 02:21:15,030 --> 02:21:11,760 from either of these two uh or one how 3376 02:21:17,830 --> 02:21:15,040 how it pans out uh ufo uh groups 3377 02:21:19,750 --> 02:21:17,840 uh uap groups inside of the department 3378 02:21:21,190 --> 02:21:19,760 of defense and odni 3379 02:21:23,990 --> 02:21:21,200 uh 3380 02:21:25,750 --> 02:21:24,000 or from the united states navy a 3381 02:21:27,030 --> 02:21:25,760 statement that comes out and explains 3382 02:21:29,750 --> 02:21:27,040 all of this 3383 02:21:33,270 --> 02:21:29,760 and none of it has to do with e.t 3384 02:21:35,030 --> 02:21:33,280 and to absolutely squash the issue yep 3385 02:21:36,630 --> 02:21:35,040 yeah i expect i i actually think that 3386 02:21:37,670 --> 02:21:36,640 that's going to happen 3387 02:21:39,429 --> 02:21:37,680 i think that's where they're going to 3388 02:21:40,469 --> 02:21:39,439 try to go 3389 02:21:42,630 --> 02:21:40,479 because 3390 02:21:45,990 --> 02:21:42,640 i mean there's a lot that's the red line 3391 02:21:48,070 --> 02:21:46,000 the red there's a red line of disclosure 3392 02:21:51,190 --> 02:21:48,080 and the most important red line is 3393 02:21:53,590 --> 02:21:51,200 admitting that there's been a conspiracy 3394 02:21:55,270 --> 02:21:53,600 for all these years they can't i just 3395 02:21:58,790 --> 02:21:55,280 can't see how that's going to be a 3396 02:22:01,190 --> 02:21:58,800 viable option for anyone who's actually 3397 02:22:02,309 --> 02:22:01,200 got this secret 3398 02:22:03,670 --> 02:22:02,319 we're in an era where you're not 3399 02:22:05,510 --> 02:22:03,680 supposed to believe in conspiracy 3400 02:22:07,429 --> 02:22:05,520 theories um 3401 02:22:09,429 --> 02:22:07,439 it's hard to find a bigger conspiracy 3402 02:22:11,830 --> 02:22:09,439 than the ufo cover-up 3403 02:22:13,830 --> 02:22:11,840 it's it's like it's at the top 3404 02:22:15,349 --> 02:22:13,840 of the of the conversation there's 3405 02:22:18,469 --> 02:22:15,359 there's as i said before there's kobe 3406 02:22:22,070 --> 02:22:18,479 there's 911 there's kennedy there's ufos 3407 02:22:24,550 --> 02:22:22,080 all right it's pretty damn big and so 3408 02:22:26,230 --> 02:22:24,560 imagine a society that's now telling you 3409 02:22:27,670 --> 02:22:26,240 google youtube all the 3410 02:22:31,030 --> 02:22:27,680 uh basically the internationalists 3411 02:22:33,270 --> 02:22:31,040 globalists uh neo-liberal media 3412 02:22:35,670 --> 02:22:33,280 telling you conspiracy theories bad and 3413 02:22:38,389 --> 02:22:35,680 they are explicitly doing this it's 3414 02:22:40,550 --> 02:22:38,399 quite like heavy-handed 3415 02:22:42,070 --> 02:22:40,560 and then but for someone to say oh well 3416 02:22:43,590 --> 02:22:42,080 yeah but well the ufo one that's 3417 02:22:45,910 --> 02:22:43,600 actually true 3418 02:22:48,870 --> 02:22:45,920 well okay so that's not gonna happen 3419 02:22:51,270 --> 02:22:48,880 exactly and then we have 3420 02:22:53,349 --> 02:22:51,280 the forces 3421 02:22:54,550 --> 02:22:53,359 that washington is definitely going to 3422 02:22:56,790 --> 02:22:54,560 be up against 3423 02:22:59,030 --> 02:22:56,800 that is the james webb telescope that 3424 02:23:01,990 --> 02:22:59,040 was just launched on christmas 3425 02:23:05,190 --> 02:23:02,000 uh looking for extraterrestrial life on 3426 02:23:07,670 --> 02:23:05,200 other planets that's one of its jobs and 3427 02:23:10,870 --> 02:23:07,680 then you have avi loeb in the galileo 3428 02:23:12,070 --> 02:23:10,880 project that is putting the scientific 3429 02:23:13,910 --> 02:23:12,080 uh 3430 02:23:16,870 --> 02:23:13,920 move on all of this 3431 02:23:18,710 --> 02:23:16,880 and if they come out this is private if 3432 02:23:21,110 --> 02:23:18,720 they come out with something 3433 02:23:23,349 --> 02:23:21,120 it's going to be in direct contrast to 3434 02:23:25,190 --> 02:23:23,359 what the department of defense is is 3435 02:23:26,550 --> 02:23:25,200 trying to have us believe well i don't 3436 02:23:28,389 --> 02:23:26,560 think that they're a threat at all to 3437 02:23:30,150 --> 02:23:28,399 the system i i suspect they've all been 3438 02:23:34,950 --> 02:23:30,160 co-opted i mean look i don't know avi 3439 02:23:39,190 --> 02:23:37,670 he's not looking for ufos per se he's 3440 02:23:40,950 --> 02:23:39,200 not talking about cover-ups and 3441 02:23:43,990 --> 02:23:40,960 conspiracies they're talking about life 3442 02:23:47,030 --> 02:23:44,000 out there so that's nice and safe 3443 02:23:49,510 --> 02:23:47,040 well avi's goal is to look at stuff 3444 02:23:52,070 --> 02:23:49,520 inside of our atmosphere 3445 02:23:53,110 --> 02:23:52,080 you know that's that's that's his thing 3446 02:23:55,990 --> 02:23:53,120 and 3447 02:23:58,790 --> 02:23:56,000 uh to to figure out where it is coming 3448 02:24:01,510 --> 02:23:58,800 from and and and that's it that's his 3449 02:24:03,030 --> 02:24:01,520 stated goal it's not to look for 3450 02:24:05,190 --> 02:24:03,040 anomalous 3451 02:24:06,710 --> 02:24:05,200 inside of our atmosphere inside of the 3452 02:24:08,469 --> 02:24:06,720 atmosphere okay 3453 02:24:09,830 --> 02:24:08,479 well good he's like a new james mcdonald 3454 02:24:11,030 --> 02:24:09,840 then let him do it 3455 02:24:12,469 --> 02:24:11,040 that would be great 3456 02:24:14,790 --> 02:24:12,479 james mcdonald was an atmospheric 3457 02:24:17,750 --> 02:24:14,800 physical yeah absolutely he was and i 3458 02:24:19,910 --> 02:24:17,760 asked so amazing i asked avi uh directly 3459 02:24:21,830 --> 02:24:19,920 on this program last week 3460 02:24:23,190 --> 02:24:21,840 uh i said 3461 02:24:25,990 --> 02:24:23,200 what if 3462 02:24:28,550 --> 02:24:26,000 you relive the movie contact 3463 02:24:31,190 --> 02:24:28,560 right you something happens and you've 3464 02:24:33,110 --> 02:24:31,200 got this and then suddenly 3465 02:24:35,190 --> 02:24:33,120 the government comes in and says this is 3466 02:24:38,230 --> 02:24:35,200 our information and it doesn't get 3467 02:24:41,030 --> 02:24:38,240 released public and his answer is uh no 3468 02:24:43,670 --> 02:24:41,040 we are absolutely independent and we 3469 02:24:46,790 --> 02:24:43,680 will do our assessments and we will 3470 02:24:49,190 --> 02:24:46,800 publish our findings independent of what 3471 02:24:50,550 --> 02:24:49,200 the government wants us to do with it 3472 02:24:52,150 --> 02:24:50,560 and that 3473 02:24:54,150 --> 02:24:52,160 he'll deal with the smear machine is 3474 02:24:57,190 --> 02:24:54,160 like everyone else but good hopefully he 3475 02:24:58,469 --> 02:24:57,200 can do that now what if the james webb 3476 02:25:00,870 --> 02:24:58,479 telescope 3477 02:25:03,110 --> 02:25:00,880 uh gets images of 3478 02:25:08,830 --> 02:25:03,120 you know cities and lights on another 3479 02:25:12,550 --> 02:25:08,840 planet right i mean like the the real 3480 02:25:13,910 --> 02:25:12,560 deal right well what if uh 3481 02:25:15,670 --> 02:25:13,920 are they gonna have the ability to do 3482 02:25:17,910 --> 02:25:15,680 that i mean 3483 02:25:20,790 --> 02:25:17,920 what planet in in another solar system 3484 02:25:23,510 --> 02:25:20,800 oh yeah that's uh the it will be the 3485 02:25:26,150 --> 02:25:23,520 deepest they will be able to look at 3486 02:25:29,190 --> 02:25:26,160 that this is how deep that the james 3487 02:25:30,309 --> 02:25:29,200 webb has designed to go we've only been 3488 02:25:33,110 --> 02:25:30,319 able to 3489 02:25:36,230 --> 02:25:33,120 peer back a certain length of time you 3490 02:25:39,429 --> 02:25:36,240 know 13.8 billions of years right okay 3491 02:25:42,630 --> 02:25:39,439 and we we can only peer back so far 3492 02:25:44,230 --> 02:25:42,640 they will be able to look at the first 3493 02:25:46,550 --> 02:25:44,240 20 3494 02:25:50,550 --> 02:25:46,560 of the creation of the universe 3495 02:25:51,750 --> 02:25:50,560 that is peering deeply into the universe 3496 02:25:54,950 --> 02:25:51,760 yes 3497 02:25:57,590 --> 02:25:54,960 well we've got this interesting uh 3498 02:26:00,230 --> 02:25:57,600 contradiction or possible 3499 02:26:02,469 --> 02:26:00,240 two two different forces 3500 02:26:04,309 --> 02:26:02,479 that are in our world now that are 3501 02:26:06,950 --> 02:26:04,319 probably going to continue for a while 3502 02:26:09,429 --> 02:26:06,960 so one of the forces is 3503 02:26:12,630 --> 02:26:09,439 our our greater and greater ability as a 3504 02:26:13,590 --> 02:26:12,640 society to just learn new things and to 3505 02:26:14,710 --> 02:26:13,600 uh 3506 02:26:16,309 --> 02:26:14,720 obtain 3507 02:26:17,510 --> 02:26:16,319 important information i mean it started 3508 02:26:20,389 --> 02:26:17,520 with you know the creation of the 3509 02:26:22,870 --> 02:26:20,399 internet the web that liberated 3510 02:26:24,150 --> 02:26:22,880 the human race essentially in a way that 3511 02:26:26,469 --> 02:26:24,160 had not 3512 02:26:28,790 --> 02:26:26,479 been imaginable before so that we could 3513 02:26:30,710 --> 02:26:28,800 share information with each other in a 3514 02:26:33,510 --> 02:26:30,720 revolutionary way 3515 02:26:36,469 --> 02:26:33,520 and what we are now seeing is a rolling 3516 02:26:38,950 --> 02:26:36,479 back of that freedom that's explicit so 3517 02:26:41,510 --> 02:26:38,960 we're seeing um you know control 3518 02:26:43,750 --> 02:26:41,520 centralization and surveillance and all 3519 02:26:45,349 --> 02:26:43,760 of that that's happening as well so to 3520 02:26:48,469 --> 02:26:45,359 basically turn the world back in like to 3521 02:26:50,950 --> 02:26:48,479 the 1980s before there was a web or a 3522 02:26:52,870 --> 02:26:50,960 version of the web that's controlled 3523 02:26:54,230 --> 02:26:52,880 like you're like your tv was back in the 3524 02:26:56,630 --> 02:26:54,240 1980s i think that's what they're trying 3525 02:26:57,670 --> 02:26:56,640 to do so the question is who's going to 3526 02:26:58,950 --> 02:26:57,680 win that 3527 02:27:02,389 --> 02:26:58,960 uh because 3528 02:27:05,190 --> 02:27:02,399 if if we can continue to maintain 3529 02:27:07,110 --> 02:27:05,200 our genuine freedom to investigate and 3530 02:27:08,870 --> 02:27:07,120 share information 3531 02:27:10,389 --> 02:27:08,880 then what's going to happen eventually 3532 02:27:12,150 --> 02:27:10,399 is 3533 02:27:14,150 --> 02:27:12,160 there will be a way 3534 02:27:16,469 --> 02:27:14,160 to 3535 02:27:18,550 --> 02:27:16,479 obtain independent 3536 02:27:20,150 --> 02:27:18,560 unarguable proof of 3537 02:27:22,070 --> 02:27:20,160 a cover-up and of the reality of this 3538 02:27:23,510 --> 02:27:22,080 phenomenon somehow i don't know what the 3539 02:27:25,429 --> 02:27:23,520 technology will be but somehow it'll 3540 02:27:29,429 --> 02:27:25,439 happen 3541 02:27:31,910 --> 02:27:29,439 you know i i do believe it unless 3542 02:27:34,870 --> 02:27:31,920 before we get to that point there is a 3543 02:27:36,790 --> 02:27:34,880 complete global lockdown of information 3544 02:27:38,550 --> 02:27:36,800 by central authorities 3545 02:27:40,950 --> 02:27:38,560 over what is permissible 3546 02:27:43,190 --> 02:27:40,960 conversation in a society 3547 02:27:46,389 --> 02:27:43,200 is this how we're seeing that as well um 3548 02:27:47,349 --> 02:27:46,399 and i'm going to magically steer uh this 3549 02:27:48,309 --> 02:27:47,359 into 3550 02:27:51,670 --> 02:27:48,319 uh 3551 02:27:53,190 --> 02:27:51,680 part three 3552 02:27:56,630 --> 02:27:53,200 is this 3553 02:27:59,110 --> 02:27:56,640 uh an evolution of a.d 3554 02:28:01,190 --> 02:27:59,120 uh after disclosure and how you are 3555 02:28:03,110 --> 02:28:01,200 going to approach it 3556 02:28:05,429 --> 02:28:03,120 in in this next volume because that 3557 02:28:07,429 --> 02:28:05,439 sounds like 3558 02:28:09,270 --> 02:28:07,439 how you would uh 3559 02:28:10,790 --> 02:28:09,280 view 3560 02:28:13,990 --> 02:28:10,800 you know what the world is like post 3561 02:28:16,550 --> 02:28:14,000 disclosure now well okay so i i'm not 3562 02:28:18,950 --> 02:28:16,560 at the moment planning a revision of 80 3563 02:28:21,110 --> 02:28:18,960 after disclosure but you you're thinking 3564 02:28:22,790 --> 02:28:21,120 of ufos in a national security state so 3565 02:28:24,630 --> 02:28:22,800 for the third volume of that i will 3566 02:28:26,150 --> 02:28:24,640 definitely be talking about these issues 3567 02:28:28,070 --> 02:28:26,160 i've been talking about them in some of 3568 02:28:30,550 --> 02:28:28,080 the other books i just 3569 02:28:32,550 --> 02:28:30,560 discussed it to an extent i think in the 3570 02:28:33,750 --> 02:28:32,560 book i wrote last year the alien agendas 3571 02:28:35,349 --> 02:28:33,760 but 3572 02:28:37,590 --> 02:28:35,359 yes um 3573 02:28:40,150 --> 02:28:37,600 when when i co-authored a.d after 3574 02:28:43,270 --> 02:28:40,160 disclosure with bryce zabel we that book 3575 02:28:46,150 --> 02:28:43,280 was in 2010. i know and my god it just 3576 02:28:48,870 --> 02:28:46,160 is incredible like i think we got a lot 3577 02:28:51,110 --> 02:28:48,880 of things prescient like we actually did 3578 02:28:52,630 --> 02:28:51,120 see a lot of things 3579 02:28:56,070 --> 02:28:52,640 but one thing 3580 02:28:58,230 --> 02:28:56,080 i didn't see i'll speak for myself here 3581 02:29:01,590 --> 02:28:58,240 in 2010 like you could still think oh 3582 02:29:02,870 --> 02:29:01,600 youtube's free facebook free like 3583 02:29:04,550 --> 02:29:02,880 it was 3584 02:29:05,429 --> 02:29:04,560 at that time 3585 02:29:07,349 --> 02:29:05,439 um 3586 02:29:11,190 --> 02:29:07,359 the the clampdown didn't really start 3587 02:29:14,070 --> 02:29:11,200 until around 2015 i'm thinking 3588 02:29:16,389 --> 02:29:14,080 and and then it happened so swiftly 3589 02:29:18,389 --> 02:29:16,399 you know it happened so fast so so the 3590 02:29:20,309 --> 02:29:18,399 thought that i was having back in 2010 3591 02:29:22,150 --> 02:29:20,319 and 2011 when we did a revision of the 3592 02:29:25,429 --> 02:29:22,160 book in 2011. 3593 02:29:29,510 --> 02:29:27,510 it's a matter of it's an inevitability 3594 02:29:32,150 --> 02:29:29,520 that our society 3595 02:29:35,110 --> 02:29:32,160 is able to generate the 3596 02:29:36,389 --> 02:29:35,120 the capability of ferreting this out and 3597 02:29:39,750 --> 02:29:36,399 making it 3598 02:29:42,309 --> 02:29:39,760 and that 3599 02:29:43,670 --> 02:29:42,319 we're going to force the government 3600 02:29:45,830 --> 02:29:43,680 the united states government 3601 02:29:47,590 --> 02:29:45,840 particularly into having to make an 3602 02:29:49,270 --> 02:29:47,600 admission because 3603 02:29:51,349 --> 02:29:49,280 it's going to have to happen so the only 3604 02:29:52,710 --> 02:29:51,359 question is how will it happen and when 3605 02:29:55,270 --> 02:29:52,720 will it happen 3606 02:29:56,070 --> 02:29:55,280 and that that really was what i believed 3607 02:29:57,510 --> 02:29:56,080 now 3608 02:29:59,270 --> 02:29:57,520 back then i didn't think it was going to 3609 02:30:01,190 --> 02:29:59,280 happen within the next few years i 3610 02:30:03,349 --> 02:30:01,200 didn't think oh disclosure's around the 3611 02:30:04,630 --> 02:30:03,359 corner i really never believed that but 3612 02:30:07,030 --> 02:30:04,640 i did believe that it was going to 3613 02:30:09,990 --> 02:30:07,040 happen at some point probably 3614 02:30:11,030 --> 02:30:10,000 that in my lifetime i would i would 3615 02:30:13,830 --> 02:30:11,040 there would be a good chance that i'd 3616 02:30:15,670 --> 02:30:13,840 live to see it i did actually 3617 02:30:19,590 --> 02:30:15,680 i was willing to think that 3618 02:30:22,070 --> 02:30:19,600 11 years ago uh what i didn't 3619 02:30:24,469 --> 02:30:22,080 foresee like i could see that we're 3620 02:30:26,389 --> 02:30:24,479 moving toward a global totalitarian 3621 02:30:28,230 --> 02:30:26,399 system even then like i used to talk 3622 02:30:29,990 --> 02:30:28,240 about i gave a lot of lectures 3623 02:30:31,990 --> 02:30:30,000 at various conferences and i remember i 3624 02:30:33,750 --> 02:30:32,000 talked about this very explicitly that 3625 02:30:36,870 --> 02:30:33,760 what we were going to look at was the 3626 02:30:39,110 --> 02:30:36,880 attempt of the global system 3627 02:30:41,270 --> 02:30:39,120 and i said this in 2011 2012 at the 3628 02:30:43,110 --> 02:30:41,280 latest that the global system would try 3629 02:30:44,469 --> 02:30:43,120 to beat us to the punch 3630 02:30:46,870 --> 02:30:44,479 and to create a kind of a global 3631 02:30:48,150 --> 02:30:46,880 lockdown of the mind 3632 02:30:53,349 --> 02:30:48,160 and 3633 02:30:55,349 --> 02:30:53,359 was how fast it happened 3634 02:30:56,950 --> 02:30:55,359 that that's the thing i 3635 02:30:59,670 --> 02:30:56,960 i have to admit like i didn't see it 3636 02:31:02,469 --> 02:30:59,680 happening so like almost with the snap 3637 02:31:05,910 --> 02:31:02,479 of a finger it was just like boom and 3638 02:31:07,670 --> 02:31:05,920 we're we're now so deep into that 3639 02:31:08,790 --> 02:31:07,680 and um 3640 02:31:10,309 --> 02:31:08,800 you know i 3641 02:31:11,510 --> 02:31:10,319 i guess you know had i really thought 3642 02:31:13,030 --> 02:31:11,520 about it i guess i could have thought 3643 02:31:15,590 --> 02:31:13,040 yeah pandemic would be the greatest 3644 02:31:16,950 --> 02:31:15,600 pretext toward doing it 3645 02:31:19,349 --> 02:31:16,960 what would be the pretext that's the 3646 02:31:20,309 --> 02:31:19,359 perfect pretext scare the hell out of 3647 02:31:22,389 --> 02:31:20,319 people 3648 02:31:24,150 --> 02:31:22,399 i mean scare them to death 3649 02:31:25,270 --> 02:31:24,160 and use that as an excuse to keep 3650 02:31:26,710 --> 02:31:25,280 everyone safe and we're just going to 3651 02:31:29,510 --> 02:31:26,720 have to monitor you for the rest of all 3652 02:31:31,349 --> 02:31:29,520 time now and what's supposed to disclose 3653 02:31:33,750 --> 02:31:31,359 your world now when you're dealing with 3654 02:31:34,790 --> 02:31:33,760 you know national security state volume 3655 02:31:37,670 --> 02:31:34,800 three 3656 02:31:39,990 --> 02:31:37,680 and and knowing what has uh transpired 3657 02:31:43,190 --> 02:31:40,000 in the last four years since 2017. i 3658 02:31:46,630 --> 02:31:43,200 can't believe richard that we are now 3659 02:31:49,510 --> 02:31:46,640 talking about this four years later 3660 02:31:50,550 --> 02:31:49,520 and it it's been great it's been a fun 3661 02:31:52,309 --> 02:31:50,560 ride 3662 02:31:55,270 --> 02:31:52,319 but we haven't had disclosure in the 3663 02:31:57,510 --> 02:31:55,280 last few years we're so far yeah and 3664 02:31:59,990 --> 02:31:57,520 think and there and there's so many 3665 02:32:02,230 --> 02:32:00,000 things to discuss 3666 02:32:04,389 --> 02:32:02,240 about disclosure it's not just our 3667 02:32:06,950 --> 02:32:04,399 aliens here good grief that's just where 3668 02:32:09,270 --> 02:32:06,960 the conversation begins 3669 02:32:10,950 --> 02:32:09,280 right then we got to start asking 3670 02:32:12,710 --> 02:32:10,960 uh okay 3671 02:32:14,070 --> 02:32:12,720 let's let's before we even get into the 3672 02:32:17,110 --> 02:32:14,080 aliens it's like let's look at our own 3673 02:32:19,590 --> 02:32:17,120 society and ask how have we completely 3674 02:32:22,710 --> 02:32:19,600 screwed over our society and created a 3675 02:32:24,870 --> 02:32:22,720 criminal system to hide this secret so 3676 02:32:26,950 --> 02:32:24,880 in other words how have we 3677 02:32:28,389 --> 02:32:26,960 undermined academia undermine our media 3678 02:32:29,990 --> 02:32:28,399 undermine our political system like 3679 02:32:31,510 --> 02:32:30,000 that's an important conversation and 3680 02:32:33,990 --> 02:32:31,520 then let's talk about the black budget 3681 02:32:34,870 --> 02:32:34,000 world the world of criminal 3682 02:32:36,950 --> 02:32:34,880 uh 3683 02:32:38,710 --> 02:32:36,960 i'm i'm calling a criminal 3684 02:32:40,070 --> 02:32:38,720 secrecy away from our elected 3685 02:32:41,990 --> 02:32:40,080 representatives at least the people are 3686 02:32:44,230 --> 02:32:42,000 supposed to be representing us congress 3687 02:32:46,309 --> 02:32:44,240 like all of that okay 3688 02:32:48,630 --> 02:32:46,319 the privatization of this secret and 3689 02:32:51,429 --> 02:32:48,640 then let's start talking about uh what's 3690 02:32:53,830 --> 02:32:51,439 the technology that we've been hiding 3691 02:32:55,910 --> 02:32:53,840 how could that maybe maybe help us out a 3692 02:32:58,230 --> 02:32:55,920 little bit here in this world um and 3693 02:32:59,349 --> 02:32:58,240 then who are these other beings like 3694 02:33:03,030 --> 02:32:59,359 that's the 3695 02:33:06,469 --> 02:33:03,040 ultimate and what are they doing 3696 02:33:07,990 --> 02:33:06,479 we're so far away and then abductions 3697 02:33:09,750 --> 02:33:08,000 what what is the purpose of the 3698 02:33:11,110 --> 02:33:09,760 abduction phenomenon 3699 02:33:13,429 --> 02:33:11,120 like those of us who've been studying 3700 02:33:14,550 --> 02:33:13,439 this we've got some ideas i've got some 3701 02:33:16,710 --> 02:33:14,560 ideas 3702 02:33:18,550 --> 02:33:16,720 i've been very deeply going into the 3703 02:33:21,510 --> 02:33:18,560 abduction phenomenon in this last couple 3704 02:33:24,070 --> 02:33:21,520 of years um 3705 02:33:26,070 --> 02:33:24,080 and that's a very important conversation 3706 02:33:27,349 --> 02:33:26,080 and then even beyond that like are there 3707 02:33:29,110 --> 02:33:27,359 one group or is there more than one 3708 02:33:31,750 --> 02:33:29,120 groups have they infiltrated do they 3709 02:33:35,030 --> 02:33:31,760 monitors do they manipulate us 3710 02:33:37,110 --> 02:33:35,040 we gotta ask that any reasonable person 3711 02:33:39,750 --> 02:33:37,120 who comes to the conclusion they've been 3712 02:33:41,910 --> 02:33:39,760 here for at least a century you've got 3713 02:33:43,190 --> 02:33:41,920 to ask have they been have they been 3714 02:33:46,150 --> 02:33:43,200 doing things 3715 02:33:48,070 --> 02:33:46,160 to our society that's a logical question 3716 02:33:50,950 --> 02:33:48,080 that's not a crazy question that's a 3717 02:33:53,150 --> 02:33:50,960 logical question is it just begun to ask 3718 02:33:55,110 --> 02:33:53,160 is it just an endless 3719 02:33:58,309 --> 02:33:55,120 fragmented 3720 02:33:59,590 --> 02:33:58,319 moving fibonacci sequence right 3721 02:34:01,510 --> 02:33:59,600 that you're not going to get to the 3722 02:34:05,270 --> 02:34:01,520 bottom of well we're getting it yeah 3723 02:34:06,710 --> 02:34:05,280 there's many many layers yeah of this 3724 02:34:08,710 --> 02:34:06,720 secret 3725 02:34:10,469 --> 02:34:08,720 this is when you this is why like i just 3726 02:34:12,550 --> 02:34:10,479 roll my eyes when i hear these skeptics 3727 02:34:14,830 --> 02:34:12,560 think oh well you know as if this is 3728 02:34:17,830 --> 02:34:14,840 some simple 3729 02:34:20,309 --> 02:34:17,840 question to resolve like are you kidding 3730 02:34:21,910 --> 02:34:20,319 me you i i just think you've got the 3731 02:34:25,030 --> 02:34:21,920 slightest idea of what you're talking 3732 02:34:27,670 --> 02:34:25,040 about this is a subject that that has 3733 02:34:32,230 --> 02:34:27,680 layer upon layer upon layer of 3734 02:34:33,990 --> 02:34:32,240 of secrecy and implications for our very 3735 02:34:35,910 --> 02:34:34,000 existence like are they are they walking 3736 02:34:37,590 --> 02:34:35,920 among us 3737 02:34:39,590 --> 02:34:37,600 like that sounds ridiculous if someone 3738 02:34:41,510 --> 02:34:39,600 doesn't study the subject but not to 3739 02:34:43,190 --> 02:34:41,520 someone who has studied it 3740 02:34:44,630 --> 02:34:43,200 now i know you've got to kill us i know 3741 02:34:45,990 --> 02:34:44,640 you've got coast to coast coming up and 3742 02:34:48,550 --> 02:34:46,000 i'm going to let you go but i want to 3743 02:34:50,630 --> 02:34:48,560 ask you uh one last question 3744 02:34:54,070 --> 02:34:50,640 and uh you and i talked about this 3745 02:34:56,950 --> 02:34:54,080 privately uh a few months ago but uh but 3746 02:34:58,630 --> 02:34:56,960 i'm going to ask you in a public 3747 02:35:00,309 --> 02:34:58,640 version of it 3748 02:35:02,710 --> 02:35:00,319 the person 3749 02:35:05,910 --> 02:35:02,720 that you were 3750 02:35:07,830 --> 02:35:05,920 investigating this and your view of this 3751 02:35:10,830 --> 02:35:07,840 15 years ago 3752 02:35:12,630 --> 02:35:10,840 to the version that you are 3753 02:35:15,030 --> 02:35:12,640 today 3754 02:35:17,429 --> 02:35:15,040 how much have you changed 3755 02:35:22,870 --> 02:35:17,439 i've personally changed quite a bit 3756 02:35:24,469 --> 02:35:22,880 uh 15 years 15 years ago i was uh i was 3757 02:35:26,950 --> 02:35:24,479 pretty well known in the ufo field at 3758 02:35:29,349 --> 02:35:26,960 that point what was it 2006 3759 02:35:31,670 --> 02:35:29,359 so yeah i was very engaged 3760 02:35:34,550 --> 02:35:31,680 people knew me 3761 02:35:36,950 --> 02:35:34,560 my attitude about the ufo subject 3762 02:35:38,469 --> 02:35:36,960 even then i was i was always 3763 02:35:40,070 --> 02:35:38,479 someone who 3764 02:35:41,510 --> 02:35:40,080 it's funny because people would say well 3765 02:35:43,349 --> 02:35:41,520 you're you're a historian and this is 3766 02:35:45,990 --> 02:35:43,359 what you do but like my attitude is i've 3767 02:35:47,429 --> 02:35:46,000 always been uh seen myself as a bit more 3768 02:35:49,670 --> 02:35:47,439 than a historian 3769 02:35:51,830 --> 02:35:49,680 yes i am a historian of this subject and 3770 02:35:53,270 --> 02:35:51,840 that's important but i like to i've 3771 02:35:55,110 --> 02:35:53,280 always thought about philosophical 3772 02:35:57,590 --> 02:35:55,120 implications of this phenomenon in every 3773 02:35:59,510 --> 02:35:57,600 way imaginable and back then i was 3774 02:36:00,950 --> 02:35:59,520 exploring it i just think i've ex i 3775 02:36:03,670 --> 02:36:00,960 explore it more 3776 02:36:05,990 --> 02:36:03,680 were you more locations now naive is the 3777 02:36:08,870 --> 02:36:06,000 right word do you do you look back and 3778 02:36:11,830 --> 02:36:08,880 think man i was just a little bit 3779 02:36:13,990 --> 02:36:11,840 uh naive on this compared to where i am 3780 02:36:17,110 --> 02:36:14,000 today and what i have learned 3781 02:36:20,230 --> 02:36:17,120 yeah i don't know about in 2006 i don't 3782 02:36:22,469 --> 02:36:20,240 know if i would call myself naive then 3783 02:36:26,469 --> 02:36:22,479 where i was naive was when i started 3784 02:36:28,070 --> 02:36:26,479 researching this phenomenon and i was 3785 02:36:29,830 --> 02:36:28,080 i didn't i didn't believe in big 3786 02:36:35,510 --> 02:36:29,840 conspiracies 3787 02:36:37,750 --> 02:36:35,520 corruption things like that but i 3788 02:36:39,670 --> 02:36:37,760 uh back in the late 90s when i was like 3789 02:36:42,309 --> 02:36:39,680 wrapping up my first book 3790 02:36:44,710 --> 02:36:42,319 uh that was actually my education and 3791 02:36:46,469 --> 02:36:44,720 thinking like holy crap like is this a 3792 02:36:47,510 --> 02:36:46,479 global conspiracy 3793 02:36:49,670 --> 02:36:47,520 um 3794 02:36:51,590 --> 02:36:49,680 so i would say i was a bit naive going 3795 02:36:53,990 --> 02:36:51,600 into my first book but i think 3796 02:36:56,389 --> 02:36:54,000 researching that book educated me 3797 02:36:57,990 --> 02:36:56,399 um i'm sure like if i were to i would 3798 02:36:59,990 --> 02:36:58,000 have to sit down and think but there's 3799 02:37:03,349 --> 02:37:00,000 been a lot that i've learned 3800 02:37:05,190 --> 02:37:03,359 since in the last even 15 years 3801 02:37:07,670 --> 02:37:05,200 um but i think you know what i was just 3802 02:37:11,349 --> 02:37:07,680 saying earlier was maybe the biggest 3803 02:37:13,510 --> 02:37:11,359 shocker i i i saw a coming global 3804 02:37:15,110 --> 02:37:13,520 kind of quasi-fascist system coming into 3805 02:37:17,590 --> 02:37:15,120 place but i didn't i didn't see it 3806 02:37:20,150 --> 02:37:17,600 happening this fast 3807 02:37:22,230 --> 02:37:20,160 or this soon richard thank you so much 3808 02:37:24,309 --> 02:37:22,240 thank you so much man happy new year it 3809 02:37:27,750 --> 02:37:24,319 was a pleasure happy new year thank you 3810 02:37:29,990 --> 02:37:27,760 give my best to mr nori and uh 3811 02:37:31,510 --> 02:37:30,000 uh i'll 3812 02:37:34,550 --> 02:37:31,520 i will it'll be the first thing i say on 3813 02:37:38,469 --> 02:37:34,560 coast yeah yeah hey jimmy church says hi 3814 02:37:40,389 --> 02:37:38,479 listen um uh we discussed earlier uh we 3815 02:37:42,469 --> 02:37:40,399 have uh some conversations that we're 3816 02:37:44,950 --> 02:37:42,479 gonna have in the next couple of days so 3817 02:37:46,630 --> 02:37:44,960 get some rest after tonight and then 3818 02:37:48,710 --> 02:37:46,640 we'll catch up over the weekend my 3819 02:37:50,389 --> 02:37:48,720 friend thank you so much my pleasure 3820 02:37:52,150 --> 02:37:50,399 thank you and a big hello to all the 3821 02:37:53,910 --> 02:37:52,160 fader knots thank you so much for that 3822 02:37:56,469 --> 02:37:53,920 and uh and there's some of my folks out 3823 02:37:58,630 --> 02:37:56,479 there listening to absolutely richard 3824 02:38:01,349 --> 02:37:58,640 bleep and dolan give my best to tracy 3825 02:38:04,790 --> 02:38:01,359 man happy new year you bet thank you 3826 02:38:07,270 --> 02:38:04,800 richard dolan i'm your host jimmy church 3827 02:38:08,870 --> 02:38:07,280 and uh i've got to let richard uh go 3828 02:38:11,190 --> 02:38:08,880 brew some coffee get ready for coast to 3829 02:38:12,710 --> 02:38:11,200 coast a.m and i am going to take a quick 3830 02:38:14,710 --> 02:38:12,720 break and i'm going to come back and 3831 02:38:18,150 --> 02:38:14,720 open up the phone lines richard behave 3832 02:38:20,230 --> 02:38:18,160 and be well my friend thank you so much 3833 02:38:25,910 --> 02:38:20,240 thank you 3834 02:38:25,920 --> 02:38:40,550 [Music] 3835 02:38:44,230 --> 02:38:42,710 you're listening to jimmy church and 3836 02:38:49,190 --> 02:38:44,240 fade to black 3837 02:38:53,510 --> 02:38:51,030 hey what up y'all your girlfriend fox 3838 02:38:54,630 --> 02:38:53,520 here and you are listening to my boy 3839 02:38:58,710 --> 02:38:54,640 jimmy church on jimmy 3840 02:39:07,760 --> 02:39:01,270 despite popular opinion 3841 02:39:12,230 --> 02:39:09,830 [Applause] 3842 02:39:15,190 --> 02:39:12,240 this is jimmy church and i personally 3843 02:39:17,830 --> 02:39:15,200 invite you to the 2022 conscious life 3844 02:39:20,870 --> 02:39:17,840 expo this february 4th through the 7th 3845 02:39:23,110 --> 02:39:20,880 live at the lax hilton in los angeles 3846 02:39:25,270 --> 02:39:23,120 california this year we have the most 3847 02:39:27,990 --> 02:39:25,280 exciting speakers including linda 3848 02:39:31,429 --> 02:39:28,000 moulton howe jacques valet whitley 3849 02:39:34,630 --> 02:39:31,439 strieber adam apollo billy carson daryl 3850 02:39:37,590 --> 02:39:34,640 inca and bashar william henry 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02:43:54,000 that was a great conversation 3937 02:43:58,389 --> 02:43:55,600 it was a perfect conversation way to 3938 02:44:02,630 --> 02:43:58,399 wrap up the year and uh 3939 02:44:05,750 --> 02:44:02,640 deep deep deep deep deep deep and 3940 02:44:08,309 --> 02:44:05,760 lots of nuggets in that conversation um 3941 02:44:10,070 --> 02:44:08,319 now i wanted to say this uh phone lines 3942 02:44:12,389 --> 02:44:10,080 are open seven four seven two two eight 3943 02:44:13,510 --> 02:44:12,399 two zero five one got time for a couple 3944 02:44:14,790 --> 02:44:13,520 of calls 3945 02:44:17,750 --> 02:44:14,800 um 3946 02:44:18,790 --> 02:44:17,760 richard bleep and dolan uh where did 3947 02:44:21,190 --> 02:44:18,800 that name 3948 02:44:23,429 --> 02:44:21,200 come from where where where what's the 3949 02:44:24,469 --> 02:44:23,439 progenator of all of that 3950 02:44:26,710 --> 02:44:24,479 and 3951 02:44:27,429 --> 02:44:26,720 i've talked about this before but there 3952 02:44:30,309 --> 02:44:27,439 are 3953 02:44:33,510 --> 02:44:30,319 many uh people that tuned in tonight 3954 02:44:35,830 --> 02:44:33,520 that that have heard it that that use or 3955 02:44:37,030 --> 02:44:35,840 some get offended by it i always get the 3956 02:44:39,670 --> 02:44:37,040 emails 3957 02:44:42,790 --> 02:44:39,680 uh after how can you do that man how can 3958 02:44:45,269 --> 02:44:42,800 you call him richard bleep and dolan 3959 02:44:46,389 --> 02:44:45,279 it came from 3960 02:44:51,349 --> 02:44:46,399 uh 3961 02:44:52,870 --> 02:44:51,359 somewhere 3962 02:44:54,389 --> 02:44:52,880 and uh 3963 02:44:55,349 --> 02:44:54,399 uh in person 3964 02:44:59,349 --> 02:44:55,359 and 3965 02:45:02,790 --> 02:44:59,359 it was uh a joking thing that started to 3966 02:45:05,750 --> 02:45:02,800 happen uh between us and one morning 3967 02:45:06,870 --> 02:45:05,760 um i came out of my hotel room with some 3968 02:45:09,590 --> 02:45:06,880 coffee 3969 02:45:12,389 --> 02:45:09,600 and uh had a table out there and and 3970 02:45:15,030 --> 02:45:12,399 richard uh is there 3971 02:45:18,309 --> 02:45:15,040 and and i walked up and said well it's 3972 02:45:20,309 --> 02:45:18,319 richard and i use the f word uh and and 3973 02:45:21,670 --> 02:45:20,319 he laughed and he goes 3974 02:45:25,910 --> 02:45:21,680 i am 3975 02:45:26,950 --> 02:45:25,920 and uh and we joked about it then and so 3976 02:45:28,870 --> 02:45:26,960 for 3977 02:45:31,830 --> 02:45:28,880 the next few days 3978 02:45:33,750 --> 02:45:31,840 uh we greeted each other that way and 3979 02:45:37,269 --> 02:45:33,760 that's where it started 3980 02:45:39,429 --> 02:45:37,279 and and so probably i don't know it's 3981 02:45:40,469 --> 02:45:39,439 probably seven years ago or so on this 3982 02:45:43,269 --> 02:45:40,479 show 3983 02:45:45,910 --> 02:45:43,279 i did it but i said bleepin and and we 3984 02:45:48,230 --> 02:45:45,920 laughed about it because 3985 02:45:50,630 --> 02:45:48,240 before that show started 3986 02:45:53,030 --> 02:45:50,640 i said man i'm gonna say richard effin 3987 02:45:55,030 --> 02:45:53,040 dolan and he goes go ahead man 3988 02:45:57,269 --> 02:45:55,040 go ahead do it 3989 02:45:58,950 --> 02:45:57,279 and uh of course i didn't i keep the 3990 02:46:00,070 --> 02:45:58,960 show clean but 3991 02:46:01,590 --> 02:46:00,080 that's where 3992 02:46:02,630 --> 02:46:01,600 the bleeping 3993 02:46:05,990 --> 02:46:02,640 started 3994 02:46:07,030 --> 02:46:06,000 and 3995 02:46:09,670 --> 02:46:07,040 uh 3996 02:46:12,870 --> 02:46:09,680 and okay so i want to back up 3997 02:46:13,750 --> 02:46:12,880 and that all revolved around 3998 02:46:16,070 --> 02:46:13,760 uh 3999 02:46:17,750 --> 02:46:16,080 this this sighting that richard and i 4000 02:46:18,630 --> 02:46:17,760 had together 4001 02:46:20,870 --> 02:46:18,640 and 4002 02:46:23,110 --> 02:46:20,880 when we were watching this 4003 02:46:25,110 --> 02:46:23,120 the the 4004 02:46:25,910 --> 02:46:25,120 uh the language 4005 02:46:28,469 --> 02:46:25,920 uh 4006 02:46:29,910 --> 02:46:28,479 that came out of richard i was like wow 4007 02:46:31,030 --> 02:46:29,920 whoa whoa 4008 02:46:35,750 --> 02:46:31,040 and 4009 02:46:37,590 --> 02:46:35,760 man richard you can swear like a sailor 4010 02:46:39,030 --> 02:46:37,600 man i'm just normal and 4011 02:46:42,070 --> 02:46:39,040 and so that's where all of that came 4012 02:46:45,269 --> 02:46:42,080 from so for all of you out there and 4013 02:46:46,309 --> 02:46:45,279 are wondering uh how i could offend 4014 02:46:49,910 --> 02:46:46,319 richard 4015 02:46:51,190 --> 02:46:49,920 in in such a way by by uh addressing him 4016 02:46:54,150 --> 02:46:51,200 that way 4017 02:46:56,469 --> 02:46:54,160 uh it happened between friends many many 4018 02:46:59,750 --> 02:46:56,479 many many years ago and now 4019 02:47:02,070 --> 02:46:59,760 it is a term of an endearment and of 4020 02:47:03,590 --> 02:47:02,080 affection and that's where it comes from 4021 02:47:06,230 --> 02:47:03,600 so i want to thank richard bleep and 4022 02:47:07,910 --> 02:47:06,240 dolan uh for a great conversation 4023 02:47:09,990 --> 02:47:07,920 tonight knowing 4024 02:47:11,750 --> 02:47:10,000 that uh he's got a he's got a long night 4025 02:47:13,190 --> 02:47:11,760 in front of him fade to black and then 4026 02:47:19,510 --> 02:47:13,200 right after the show tonight he's over 4027 02:47:23,190 --> 02:47:21,590 with that 4028 02:47:25,190 --> 02:47:23,200 let's go to the phones let's see who's 4029 02:47:27,030 --> 02:47:25,200 up hi you're live on fade to black who's 4030 02:47:29,429 --> 02:47:27,040 calling 4031 02:47:31,670 --> 02:47:29,439 hey jimmy it's me paul from south of 4032 02:47:33,030 --> 02:47:31,680 michigan hey paul from south of michigan 4033 02:47:35,429 --> 02:47:33,040 how you doing man how did you like the 4034 02:47:37,830 --> 02:47:35,439 conversation with richard 4035 02:47:40,070 --> 02:47:37,840 uh he's great you know um 4036 02:47:41,990 --> 02:47:40,080 i just wanted to say my little two cents 4037 02:47:45,030 --> 02:47:42,000 tonight and hey happy new year best wish 4038 02:47:46,790 --> 02:47:45,040 of all the peter nuts um i lived in guam 4039 02:47:48,550 --> 02:47:46,800 for three years and i met a lot of 4040 02:47:51,910 --> 02:47:48,560 australians you know 4041 02:47:53,830 --> 02:47:51,920 they are a little bit more um you know 4042 02:47:55,670 --> 02:47:53,840 they got some pep in them you know a lot 4043 02:47:57,349 --> 02:47:55,680 of them tell me they love america it's 4044 02:47:59,110 --> 02:47:57,359 like a lot of russians i met over there 4045 02:47:59,910 --> 02:47:59,120 bomb was interesting a lot of koreans 4046 02:48:02,150 --> 02:47:59,920 and 4047 02:48:03,349 --> 02:48:02,160 um a lot of filipinos over there a lot 4048 02:48:04,870 --> 02:48:03,359 of um 4049 02:48:06,630 --> 02:48:04,880 a lot of cultures over there a lot of 4050 02:48:08,230 --> 02:48:06,640 russians just there anyhow you know the 4051 02:48:09,830 --> 02:48:08,240 russians love us too they told me i 4052 02:48:11,910 --> 02:48:09,840 lived there for three years 4053 02:48:14,150 --> 02:48:11,920 but i wanted to let you know that 4054 02:48:16,550 --> 02:48:14,160 you know i'm feeling what you guys are 4055 02:48:17,990 --> 02:48:16,560 seeing like richard was saying but like 4056 02:48:19,349 --> 02:48:18,000 the australians they're going to fight 4057 02:48:20,870 --> 02:48:19,359 back a lot of these countries are going 4058 02:48:23,510 --> 02:48:20,880 to fight but they're just kind of laying 4059 02:48:25,910 --> 02:48:23,520 low you know all letting cobra take its 4060 02:48:27,349 --> 02:48:25,920 course you know out of precaution but 4061 02:48:29,830 --> 02:48:27,359 you know i don't think it's all doom and 4062 02:48:31,590 --> 02:48:29,840 gloom but uh you know and these guys 4063 02:48:33,990 --> 02:48:31,600 although a lot of the ones i talked to 4064 02:48:36,070 --> 02:48:34,000 you know especially in the philippines i 4065 02:48:37,670 --> 02:48:36,080 was over there in the australians 4066 02:48:39,670 --> 02:48:37,680 they're all about the ufo community 4067 02:48:41,750 --> 02:48:39,680 they're always asking me even if the 4068 02:48:43,830 --> 02:48:41,760 filipinos were very interested like i 4069 02:48:45,510 --> 02:48:43,840 didn't even bring it up it's like whoa 4070 02:48:46,870 --> 02:48:45,520 i'm in like a party my wife's from there 4071 02:48:49,030 --> 02:48:46,880 i lived in the philippines for a year 4072 02:48:51,030 --> 02:48:49,040 been there four times they were like hey 4073 02:48:53,429 --> 02:48:51,040 why are all you americans talking about 4074 02:48:55,030 --> 02:48:53,439 your phones and stuff and i was like wow 4075 02:48:57,110 --> 02:48:55,040 i couldn't believe i was kind of stuck 4076 02:48:58,870 --> 02:48:57,120 this is like about four or five years 4077 02:49:01,429 --> 02:48:58,880 ago and i was like wow these guys know 4078 02:49:03,030 --> 02:49:01,439 about all that stuff so that's cool uh i 4079 02:49:05,590 --> 02:49:03,040 can say i lived when i was in the 4080 02:49:07,269 --> 02:49:05,600 military i called in a few times now i 4081 02:49:09,510 --> 02:49:07,279 was talking to the check clip and it's 4082 02:49:12,070 --> 02:49:09,520 like i said you know you 4083 02:49:13,830 --> 02:49:12,080 it's hit and miss because i'm personally 4084 02:49:16,630 --> 02:49:13,840 like i called in before i saw a lot of 4085 02:49:19,670 --> 02:49:16,640 ufos when i was in iraq i lived in sick 4086 02:49:21,590 --> 02:49:19,680 korea for six years i only saw a few 4087 02:49:24,150 --> 02:49:21,600 in the three years i lived in guam i 4088 02:49:26,389 --> 02:49:24,160 never saw any but i wonder if that's 4089 02:49:29,190 --> 02:49:26,399 because that's where they train 4090 02:49:30,550 --> 02:49:29,200 um you see a lot of the um a lot of nice 4091 02:49:32,550 --> 02:49:30,560 planes out there the 4092 02:49:34,389 --> 02:49:32,560 the um stealth bombers and stealth 4093 02:49:36,309 --> 02:49:34,399 fighters regularly train over there you 4094 02:49:37,429 --> 02:49:36,319 see them fly right over to monday in 4095 02:49:38,710 --> 02:49:37,439 guam 4096 02:49:40,710 --> 02:49:38,720 and um 4097 02:49:42,230 --> 02:49:40,720 well you know i've been there like 30 4098 02:49:44,870 --> 02:49:42,240 states and 30 countries but i'm trying 4099 02:49:46,309 --> 02:49:44,880 to think uh in the philippines i was 4100 02:49:47,910 --> 02:49:46,319 there in the year 4101 02:49:49,830 --> 02:49:47,920 i lived there and i've been there for i 4102 02:49:52,070 --> 02:49:49,840 never saw any over there either but 4103 02:49:54,389 --> 02:49:52,080 they're more into like your 4104 02:49:56,230 --> 02:49:54,399 mystical creatures chewbaccab what kind 4105 02:49:57,349 --> 02:49:56,240 of thing they call it the 4106 02:49:59,670 --> 02:49:57,359 flying 4107 02:50:01,110 --> 02:49:59,680 um you know they believe in like what we 4108 02:50:03,110 --> 02:50:01,120 i think it's like the same as the native 4109 02:50:03,830 --> 02:50:03,120 americans in america they believe in the 4110 02:50:05,670 --> 02:50:03,840 uh 4111 02:50:08,389 --> 02:50:05,680 they call we we call them thunderbirds 4112 02:50:09,990 --> 02:50:08,399 they they call it like the uh wasuke or 4113 02:50:11,510 --> 02:50:10,000 the choo-choo they're like they just 4114 02:50:13,349 --> 02:50:11,520 believe they're like flying people with 4115 02:50:15,030 --> 02:50:13,359 big bad but i think there's some 4116 02:50:17,269 --> 02:50:15,040 commonality in that with what people 4117 02:50:19,429 --> 02:50:17,279 were talking about with the bachmann but 4118 02:50:21,590 --> 02:50:19,439 hey jimmy i wanted to say a great show 4119 02:50:23,590 --> 02:50:21,600 as always i'll try to call him tomorrow 4120 02:50:26,150 --> 02:50:23,600 too but uh happy new year brother you're 4121 02:50:27,750 --> 02:50:26,160 amazing and hey i i was bringing up in 4122 02:50:30,070 --> 02:50:27,760 the chat i hope you can get on joe 4123 02:50:33,670 --> 02:50:30,080 logan's show i think you and christina 4124 02:50:36,150 --> 02:50:33,680 gomez and you bring in jesse ventura and 4125 02:50:37,190 --> 02:50:36,160 you know george noy you guys you do all 4126 02:50:39,349 --> 02:50:37,200 your homework 4127 02:50:40,870 --> 02:50:39,359 you would throw joe for a week you you 4128 02:50:42,710 --> 02:50:40,880 and joe would get along so great i 4129 02:50:44,309 --> 02:50:42,720 wonder if you ever thought about it i'd 4130 02:50:46,070 --> 02:50:44,319 like to hear your thoughts on that too 4131 02:50:47,830 --> 02:50:46,080 but uh all right you know you're a mason 4132 02:50:49,750 --> 02:50:47,840 jimmy i love you brother god bless you 4133 02:50:51,349 --> 02:50:49,760 happy new year to you and your family i 4134 02:50:53,349 --> 02:50:51,359 wish you the best in all the feeding 4135 02:50:55,190 --> 02:50:53,359 thoughts and thank you brother from uh i 4136 02:50:57,190 --> 02:50:55,200 grew up in detroit like i said i'm south 4137 02:50:59,510 --> 02:50:57,200 of there now thanks so much brother 4138 02:51:02,309 --> 02:50:59,520 thank you so much paul and happy new 4139 02:51:05,830 --> 02:51:02,319 year to you too as well i really 4140 02:51:07,110 --> 02:51:05,840 appreciate the phone call and uh 4141 02:51:08,070 --> 02:51:07,120 yeah would i 4142 02:51:11,190 --> 02:51:08,080 i mean 4143 02:51:12,070 --> 02:51:11,200 uh joe rogan i i don't know 4144 02:51:13,990 --> 02:51:12,080 if 4145 02:51:15,030 --> 02:51:14,000 uh there's a whole lot for us to talk 4146 02:51:16,630 --> 02:51:15,040 about 4147 02:51:19,670 --> 02:51:16,640 um but 4148 02:51:20,790 --> 02:51:19,680 i can't predict the future so 4149 02:51:23,990 --> 02:51:20,800 uh 4150 02:51:25,110 --> 02:51:24,000 yeah i'll just leave that right there um 4151 02:51:27,510 --> 02:51:25,120 but uh 4152 02:51:29,910 --> 02:51:27,520 it's not for me 4153 02:51:30,950 --> 02:51:29,920 uh the one thing that i agree 4154 02:51:36,550 --> 02:51:30,960 uh 4155 02:51:37,990 --> 02:51:36,560 is that it's not 4156 02:51:40,389 --> 02:51:38,000 uh 4157 02:51:42,230 --> 02:51:40,399 rona is real i mean there's 4158 02:51:43,590 --> 02:51:42,240 there's that part of it you know how 4159 02:51:45,910 --> 02:51:43,600 what when and where that's a whole 4160 02:51:47,030 --> 02:51:45,920 nother conversation and maybe we'll find 4161 02:51:49,750 --> 02:51:47,040 out someday 4162 02:51:53,110 --> 02:51:49,760 but uh it's not about that 4163 02:51:54,790 --> 02:51:53,120 uh for me and back to richard's point 4164 02:51:56,150 --> 02:51:54,800 and i've talked about it many times on 4165 02:52:01,750 --> 02:51:56,160 this show 4166 02:52:05,190 --> 02:52:01,760 it's just amazing to me that the entire 4167 02:52:07,590 --> 02:52:05,200 planet every country everywhere 4168 02:52:10,309 --> 02:52:07,600 everything 4169 02:52:13,269 --> 02:52:10,319 got into lockstep and was coordinated i 4170 02:52:13,279 --> 02:52:15,269 zero mind-blowing 4171 02:52:19,030 --> 02:52:17,510 that that level of control and how it 4172 02:52:19,910 --> 02:52:19,040 was done 4173 02:52:20,710 --> 02:52:19,920 uh 4174 02:52:23,110 --> 02:52:20,720 and 4175 02:52:26,150 --> 02:52:23,120 when we talk about conspiracies 4176 02:52:28,230 --> 02:52:26,160 i'll just stay on this uh for a minute 4177 02:52:29,830 --> 02:52:28,240 uh when we talk about conspiracies and 4178 02:52:30,950 --> 02:52:29,840 the idea 4179 02:52:33,750 --> 02:52:30,960 of 4180 02:52:35,269 --> 02:52:33,760 could this actually happen and it goes 4181 02:52:36,070 --> 02:52:35,279 back to 4182 02:52:38,550 --> 02:52:36,080 uh 4183 02:52:40,630 --> 02:52:38,560 the george orwell and some of these 4184 02:52:41,910 --> 02:52:40,640 other concepts uh that have been 4185 02:52:42,950 --> 02:52:41,920 presented and written about and 4186 02:52:44,950 --> 02:52:42,960 discussed 4187 02:52:47,590 --> 02:52:44,960 uh for decades 4188 02:52:51,670 --> 02:52:47,600 that is it possible 4189 02:52:53,510 --> 02:52:51,680 for everyone to go complacent for every 4190 02:52:54,870 --> 02:52:53,520 for every for 4191 02:52:58,070 --> 02:52:54,880 is 4192 02:52:59,429 --> 02:52:58,080 it was always no now it was it was fun 4193 02:53:01,269 --> 02:52:59,439 to talk about 4194 02:53:03,349 --> 02:53:01,279 it was fun to read about it's fun to 4195 02:53:06,070 --> 02:53:03,359 make movies about it 4196 02:53:08,230 --> 02:53:06,080 and and all of this was laid out there 4197 02:53:09,429 --> 02:53:08,240 but i don't think any of us 4198 02:53:11,030 --> 02:53:09,439 saw 4199 02:53:13,590 --> 02:53:11,040 this coming 4200 02:53:16,230 --> 02:53:13,600 and and the possibility 4201 02:53:18,790 --> 02:53:16,240 of it and and what i think and that 4202 02:53:21,110 --> 02:53:18,800 those that are in control 4203 02:53:22,830 --> 02:53:21,120 and it's not just one i'm just talking 4204 02:53:25,750 --> 02:53:22,840 about uh 4205 02:53:26,950 --> 02:53:25,760 specifically uh the media and and 4206 02:53:28,790 --> 02:53:26,960 governments 4207 02:53:31,110 --> 02:53:28,800 uh that 4208 02:53:33,110 --> 02:53:31,120 this level of control 4209 02:53:36,230 --> 02:53:33,120 could happen 4210 02:53:38,790 --> 02:53:36,240 so quickly and easily 4211 02:53:41,670 --> 02:53:38,800 that's the part for me where i just step 4212 02:53:43,750 --> 02:53:41,680 back and go whoa 4213 02:53:48,469 --> 02:53:43,760 whoa 4214 02:53:51,110 --> 02:53:48,479 that's the part um i'm 4215 02:53:53,510 --> 02:53:51,120 putting everything because it's not 4216 02:53:55,190 --> 02:53:53,520 it's not one specific thing and that's 4217 02:53:59,510 --> 02:53:55,200 the crazy part 4218 02:54:01,830 --> 02:53:59,520 it's it's jobs it's uh money it's the 4219 02:54:03,190 --> 02:54:01,840 transportation industry it's sports it's 4220 02:54:05,349 --> 02:54:03,200 entertainment 4221 02:54:07,110 --> 02:54:05,359 uh shipping 4222 02:54:08,710 --> 02:54:07,120 uh 4223 02:54:10,950 --> 02:54:08,720 it's all yes 4224 02:54:14,230 --> 02:54:10,960 hospitals healthcare 4225 02:54:17,910 --> 02:54:15,750 was affected 4226 02:54:19,910 --> 02:54:17,920 in every country 4227 02:54:23,510 --> 02:54:19,920 everywhere around the world there isn't 4228 02:54:25,510 --> 02:54:23,520 a citizen on this planet not a one 4229 02:54:28,389 --> 02:54:25,520 that wasn't affected 4230 02:54:30,630 --> 02:54:28,399 it's it's crazy 4231 02:54:35,590 --> 02:54:30,640 it's it's unbelievable and this is the 4232 02:54:37,750 --> 02:54:35,600 part that scares me the most those that 4233 02:54:39,990 --> 02:54:37,760 wondered if they could 4234 02:54:42,309 --> 02:54:40,000 implement this type of control 4235 02:54:44,469 --> 02:54:42,319 now have their answer 4236 02:54:49,190 --> 02:54:44,479 it can be done 4237 02:54:50,950 --> 02:54:49,200 and efficiently 4238 02:54:53,110 --> 02:54:50,960 when i say quickly i'm talking about 4239 02:54:54,870 --> 02:54:53,120 nanoseconds here 4240 02:54:55,750 --> 02:54:54,880 i'm not talking about 4241 02:55:01,110 --> 02:54:55,760 uh 4242 02:55:05,429 --> 02:55:01,120 this type of control the idea behind and 4243 02:55:09,030 --> 02:55:05,439 and you go back to the 1950s 1960s 1900s 4244 02:55:12,070 --> 02:55:09,040 1800s 1700s the year zero 4245 02:55:14,070 --> 02:55:12,080 it's slow 4246 02:55:15,590 --> 02:55:14,080 it's a slow 4247 02:55:18,070 --> 02:55:15,600 process 4248 02:55:20,230 --> 02:55:18,080 it takes months 4249 02:55:22,630 --> 02:55:20,240 years 4250 02:55:24,469 --> 02:55:22,640 this happened 4251 02:55:26,230 --> 02:55:24,479 like that 4252 02:55:27,830 --> 02:55:26,240 nanoseconds 4253 02:55:30,710 --> 02:55:27,840 immediate 4254 02:55:33,030 --> 02:55:30,720 crazy it's a it's just a crazy thought 4255 02:55:35,750 --> 02:55:33,040 it is absolutely crazy 4256 02:55:37,750 --> 02:55:35,760 and i just uh i was 4257 02:55:39,750 --> 02:55:37,760 talking to somebody earlier today about 4258 02:55:41,510 --> 02:55:39,760 this on the phone friend of mine who's 4259 02:55:43,670 --> 02:55:41,520 in the hospital um 4260 02:55:46,790 --> 02:55:43,680 i'll talk more about this in a few days 4261 02:55:47,830 --> 02:55:46,800 after he gets out um is that 4262 02:55:49,590 --> 02:55:47,840 um 4263 02:55:50,950 --> 02:55:49,600 i just want this 4264 02:55:53,670 --> 02:55:50,960 over 4265 02:55:57,510 --> 02:55:53,680 and i just want to get back to some kind 4266 02:55:59,110 --> 02:55:57,520 of normalcy and i want to get back to 4267 02:56:01,750 --> 02:55:59,120 moving forward 4268 02:56:04,550 --> 02:56:01,760 because it's just been stagnant 4269 02:56:06,309 --> 02:56:04,560 stagnant like a dirty pond 4270 02:56:08,070 --> 02:56:06,319 stagnant 4271 02:56:09,190 --> 02:56:08,080 and and that's where i'm at all right 4272 02:56:10,950 --> 02:56:09,200 with that 4273 02:56:12,550 --> 02:56:10,960 let's uh 4274 02:56:13,750 --> 02:56:12,560 let's see who's up next let's go back to 4275 02:56:16,070 --> 02:56:13,760 the phones oh you're live on fade to 4276 02:56:18,870 --> 02:56:16,080 black who's calling 4277 02:56:20,469 --> 02:56:18,880 hi jimmy it's deb from sacramento hi deb 4278 02:56:24,230 --> 02:56:20,479 how are you 4279 02:56:25,590 --> 02:56:24,240 cleanse what day did you finally end 4280 02:56:29,670 --> 02:56:25,600 that 4281 02:56:33,349 --> 02:56:29,680 well 4282 02:56:35,429 --> 02:56:33,359 thursday you said you're in the middle 4283 02:56:37,110 --> 02:56:35,439 of it and it was going to go through um 4284 02:56:40,630 --> 02:56:37,120 the next day so i'm assuming it ended 4285 02:56:43,269 --> 02:56:40,640 friday for you okay and the reason for 4286 02:56:45,590 --> 02:56:43,279 you asking is 4287 02:56:47,110 --> 02:56:45,600 is because obviously you did it for 4288 02:56:49,510 --> 02:56:47,120 health reasons and maybe some weight 4289 02:56:51,110 --> 02:56:49,520 loss reasons but also i want to know 4290 02:56:54,469 --> 02:56:51,120 what was the first delicious thing that 4291 02:56:55,349 --> 02:56:54,479 you got to eat no i no i ate through it 4292 02:56:58,150 --> 02:56:55,359 all 4293 02:57:00,150 --> 02:56:58,160 um i i i drink so you said you weren't 4294 02:57:01,590 --> 02:57:00,160 on her show you said you weren't eating 4295 02:57:03,830 --> 02:57:01,600 and you were on edge because you had not 4296 02:57:06,389 --> 02:57:03,840 been eating 4297 02:57:08,389 --> 02:57:06,399 yeah maybe i said that and maybe at that 4298 02:57:11,429 --> 02:57:08,399 moment that might have been the case 4299 02:57:12,790 --> 02:57:11,439 i drink the tea all year long i drink it 4300 02:57:13,670 --> 02:57:12,800 almost every day 4301 02:57:16,950 --> 02:57:13,680 so 4302 02:57:17,830 --> 02:57:16,960 uh this time around specifically 4303 02:57:20,790 --> 02:57:17,840 uh 4304 02:57:24,630 --> 02:57:20,800 i doubled the concentration 4305 02:57:28,790 --> 02:57:24,640 of the brew and then cut the water in 4306 02:57:31,429 --> 02:57:28,800 half so it was like four times as strong 4307 02:57:34,070 --> 02:57:31,439 and the bathrooms were very necessary 4308 02:57:36,389 --> 02:57:34,080 well and the reason and the reason why i 4309 02:57:38,230 --> 02:57:36,399 felt uh 4310 02:57:40,550 --> 02:57:38,240 the need to do that 4311 02:57:41,830 --> 02:57:40,560 is i came off of 4312 02:57:43,670 --> 02:57:41,840 a weak 4313 02:57:45,429 --> 02:57:43,680 um i 4314 02:57:50,150 --> 02:57:45,439 uh oh 4315 02:57:52,070 --> 02:57:50,160 man okay this is what happened i catered 4316 02:57:53,910 --> 02:57:52,080 debbie asked a good question i'm sorry 4317 02:57:56,389 --> 02:57:53,920 go ahead i want to hear that but i just 4318 02:57:57,990 --> 02:57:56,399 you know my private life is private so i 4319 02:58:00,150 --> 02:57:58,000 keep everything private nobody knows 4320 02:58:02,469 --> 02:58:00,160 anything but i'll say this 4321 02:58:04,790 --> 02:58:02,479 i catered a 4322 02:58:06,790 --> 02:58:04,800 a large amount 4323 02:58:09,349 --> 02:58:06,800 of italian food 4324 02:58:11,349 --> 02:58:09,359 and so the catering came in and it 4325 02:58:16,070 --> 02:58:11,359 arrived and i had 4326 02:58:17,590 --> 02:58:16,080 trays of meat lasagna i had trays of 4327 02:58:21,190 --> 02:58:17,600 uh 4328 02:58:25,750 --> 02:58:21,200 chicken alfredo i had trays of spaghetti 4329 02:58:26,710 --> 02:58:25,760 i had meatballs i had uh pizza i had 4330 02:58:29,349 --> 02:58:26,720 uh 4331 02:58:30,389 --> 02:58:29,359 bread and sat i had all this food so 4332 02:58:34,230 --> 02:58:30,399 anyway 4333 02:58:36,309 --> 02:58:34,240 it i love to eat so after all of that uh 4334 02:58:38,710 --> 02:58:36,319 i tried to give away as much of it as i 4335 02:58:41,030 --> 02:58:38,720 could but so i did like three or four 4336 02:58:42,630 --> 02:58:41,040 days of my favorite foods 4337 02:58:44,710 --> 02:58:42,640 and i couldn't stop eating and i was 4338 02:58:46,790 --> 02:58:44,720 like man uh 4339 02:58:49,590 --> 02:58:46,800 i got a i got a cleanse 4340 02:58:52,389 --> 02:58:49,600 so that's what i did yeah and and so 4341 02:58:54,070 --> 02:58:52,399 that's that's the reason forget it 4342 02:58:56,469 --> 02:58:54,080 yeah there were no underlying health 4343 02:58:59,190 --> 02:58:56,479 issues or reasons uh to do it no it's 4344 02:59:00,389 --> 02:58:59,200 just that i did i did a week of uh 4345 02:59:02,950 --> 02:59:00,399 gorging 4346 02:59:04,309 --> 02:59:02,960 and it was good yes well you were that 4347 02:59:06,230 --> 02:59:04,319 was your time off and that you were 4348 02:59:08,710 --> 02:59:06,240 allowed to finally you know and i'm glad 4349 02:59:11,590 --> 02:59:08,720 that it was for a fun reason my miracle 4350 02:59:13,750 --> 02:59:11,600 over chris over christmas was um i'd 4351 02:59:15,750 --> 02:59:13,760 mention over thanksgiving when we talked 4352 02:59:17,510 --> 02:59:15,760 that night that i had gone for five 4353 02:59:19,190 --> 02:59:17,520 months so far with no sugar in my diet 4354 02:59:21,429 --> 02:59:19,200 and i've been doing high protein low 4355 02:59:23,910 --> 02:59:21,439 carb for months and months now and it's 4356 02:59:26,550 --> 02:59:23,920 been extremely beneficial for me i mean 4357 02:59:28,550 --> 02:59:26,560 i'm back at my full weight i feel great 4358 02:59:30,389 --> 02:59:28,560 i've got so much energy the biggest 4359 02:59:32,150 --> 02:59:30,399 favor i've done myself is cut sugar out 4360 02:59:34,389 --> 02:59:32,160 of my life unless it's natural sugar 4361 02:59:35,429 --> 02:59:34,399 like from fruit for smoothies and things 4362 02:59:38,550 --> 02:59:35,439 but 4363 02:59:40,870 --> 02:59:38,560 um gosh now i digress um oh so over the 4364 02:59:43,269 --> 02:59:40,880 christmas holiday my big miracle was my 4365 02:59:44,710 --> 02:59:43,279 goal was eat what you want in moderation 4366 02:59:46,710 --> 02:59:44,720 but don't gain any weight i didn't gain 4367 02:59:48,230 --> 02:59:46,720 a single ounce so that was my christmas 4368 02:59:49,750 --> 02:59:48,240 miracle 4369 02:59:51,269 --> 02:59:49,760 so that's why i was interested to see 4370 02:59:53,510 --> 02:59:51,279 what was the first delicious thing you 4371 02:59:55,030 --> 02:59:53,520 got to eat all right 4372 02:59:58,469 --> 02:59:55,040 the delicious 4373 03:00:02,230 --> 02:59:58,479 continued 4374 03:00:03,110 --> 03:00:02,240 uh so you know what i did today though 4375 03:00:05,349 --> 03:00:03,120 uh 4376 03:00:08,389 --> 03:00:05,359 christina gomez if she's listening she's 4377 03:00:12,710 --> 03:00:08,399 a bad influence so christina uh wrote 4378 03:00:15,750 --> 03:00:12,720 this article today uh or it was released 4379 03:00:18,150 --> 03:00:15,760 yeah in in the debrief so i read that 4380 03:00:20,389 --> 03:00:18,160 and i went man 4381 03:00:21,349 --> 03:00:20,399 i want some ramen 4382 03:00:22,230 --> 03:00:21,359 so 4383 03:00:23,750 --> 03:00:22,240 and i've 4384 03:00:26,070 --> 03:00:23,760 the show's at its end so i'm going to 4385 03:00:29,110 --> 03:00:26,080 make this really quick so i went and 4386 03:00:30,710 --> 03:00:29,120 made ramen but i made it with 4387 03:00:32,550 --> 03:00:30,720 jumbo shrimp 4388 03:00:34,950 --> 03:00:32,560 and a little bit too 4389 03:00:38,150 --> 03:00:34,960 much too much shrimp but anyway 4390 03:00:39,750 --> 03:00:38,160 so that's what i did uh today and it was 4391 03:00:41,429 --> 03:00:39,760 delicious 4392 03:00:44,630 --> 03:00:41,439 chicken ramen 4393 03:00:45,830 --> 03:00:44,640 but and chicken broth you use that for 4394 03:00:48,950 --> 03:00:45,840 everything i don't care if you're 4395 03:00:51,190 --> 03:00:48,960 cooking beef seafood pork 4396 03:00:53,670 --> 03:00:51,200 vegetables it doesn't matter chicken 4397 03:00:56,150 --> 03:00:53,680 broth is is the correct 4398 03:00:59,590 --> 03:00:56,160 base of everything so 4399 03:01:02,389 --> 03:00:59,600 uh shrimp uh straight in over the top 4400 03:01:04,070 --> 03:01:02,399 and man and that was my day 4401 03:01:06,070 --> 03:01:04,080 and that was my day so that's a lot 4402 03:01:07,030 --> 03:01:06,080 better than ramen and chili jimmy 4403 03:01:08,710 --> 03:01:07,040 because when you talk about rice you 4404 03:01:11,670 --> 03:01:08,720 know ramen and chili pop a little bit in 4405 03:01:12,790 --> 03:01:11,680 my mouth no no no no no no 4406 03:01:16,630 --> 03:01:12,800 no no 4407 03:01:20,389 --> 03:01:16,640 ramen and chili with parmesan cheese is 4408 03:01:24,309 --> 03:01:20,399 the most delicious thing in the world 4409 03:01:28,070 --> 03:01:24,319 far surpasses shrimp and and ramen 4410 03:01:30,550 --> 03:01:28,080 chili ramen and parmesan cheese 4411 03:01:32,150 --> 03:01:30,560 not buying it tomorrow night real quick 4412 03:01:33,910 --> 03:01:32,160 i know you gotta go tomorrow night i'm 4413 03:01:35,910 --> 03:01:33,920 gonna give you a heads up i have if you 4414 03:01:38,550 --> 03:01:35,920 get me if you get me through i've got a 4415 03:01:40,230 --> 03:01:38,560 short christmas musical challenge for 4416 03:01:42,070 --> 03:01:40,240 you but the hint that i'm giving you a 4417 03:01:44,389 --> 03:01:42,080 heads up i'm giving you is it's about 4418 03:01:45,990 --> 03:01:44,399 the special rudolph the red-nosed 4419 03:01:48,309 --> 03:01:46,000 reindeer i'll again i'm going to have 4420 03:01:50,230 --> 03:01:48,319 five questions surrounded about that 4421 03:01:52,710 --> 03:01:50,240 special that show because you mentioned 4422 03:01:54,550 --> 03:01:52,720 you like that show and that's why i sent 4423 03:01:57,429 --> 03:01:54,560 you that little elf that sings the song 4424 03:01:58,790 --> 03:01:57,439 from rudolph so if you let me talk to 4425 03:02:00,630 --> 03:01:58,800 you tomorrow night i'm gonna have a 4426 03:02:02,550 --> 03:02:00,640 little trivia thing for you and get 4427 03:02:04,790 --> 03:02:02,560 ready for it it's going to be super fun 4428 03:02:06,790 --> 03:02:04,800 i promise have a great night we'll see 4429 03:02:07,990 --> 03:02:06,800 you tomorrow our last show of the year 4430 03:02:10,309 --> 03:02:08,000 thank you so much 4431 03:02:12,550 --> 03:02:10,319 right on 4432 03:02:15,510 --> 03:02:12,560 fade to black that's what i'm talking 4433 03:02:16,950 --> 03:02:15,520 about and with that i've got to uh get 4434 03:02:19,429 --> 03:02:16,960 out of here 4435 03:02:22,230 --> 03:02:19,439 that is a poll to poll 4436 03:02:24,630 --> 03:02:22,240 and uh there you go thank you so much 4437 03:02:25,590 --> 03:02:24,640 richard bleep and dolan great show 4438 03:02:27,670 --> 03:02:25,600 tonight 4439 03:02:30,710 --> 03:02:27,680 great way to end the year with our last 4440 03:02:33,349 --> 03:02:30,720 guest for 2021. tomorrow night is fader 4441 03:02:36,150 --> 03:02:33,359 night thursday night the night before 4442 03:02:37,910 --> 03:02:36,160 new year's eve it's open lines with all 4443 03:02:40,309 --> 03:02:37,920 of you we're going to celebrate together 4444 03:02:42,790 --> 03:02:40,319 fade to black is produced by hill j palm 4445 03:02:44,870 --> 03:02:42,800 rene dennis and kevin announcers are 4446 03:02:46,710 --> 03:02:44,880 steve harder gene patella mark d kovar 4447 03:02:49,530 --> 03:02:46,720 webmaster is drew the geek 4448 03:02:51,550 --> 03:02:49,540 music doug aldridge intro space boy 4449 03:02:53,349 --> 03:02:51,560 [Music] 4450 03:02:55,269 --> 03:02:53,359 spaceboymusic.com fade to black is 4451 03:02:57,110 --> 03:02:55,279 produced by kjcr for the game changer 4452 03:02:59,429 --> 03:02:57,120 network this broadcast on the 4453 03:03:01,510 --> 03:02:59,439 copyrighted 2021 by fade to black and 4454 03:03:03,590 --> 03:03:01,520 the game changer network inc it cannot 4455 03:03:05,349 --> 03:03:03,600 be rebroadcast downloaded copied or used 4456 03:03:06,950 --> 03:03:05,359 anywhere in the known universe without 4457 03:03:08,389 --> 03:03:06,960 written permission from fade to black or 4458 03:03:10,309 --> 03:03:08,399 the game changer network all right you 4459 03:03:12,389 --> 03:03:10,319 know jimmy church tomorrow night's fader 4460 03:03:15,349 --> 03:03:12,399 night it's our last show 4461 03:03:18,070 --> 03:03:15,359 of 2021. i'm your host jimmy church 4462 03:03:19,510 --> 03:03:18,080 until tomorrow night i want everybody to 4463 03:03:24,450 --> 03:03:19,520 be safe 4464 03:03:43,560 --> 03:03:24,460 it's time to fade to black